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I think that’s probably for the best, because macrodosing on alcohol as a society isn’t fixing anything.

Ok, that was too deep maybe. No, I’m not on mushrooms. But I am a believer in psychedelics having positives.

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I would like to take an alternate view of others, but let me start by saying I’ve done shrooms and I enjoy them and I think they should be legal.

However, the ads selling things like mushroom gummies I have seen on social media are both deceptive about what they can do and are not in any way clear what they mean by ‘microdosing.’ And that’s why my brother went from microdosing to taking massive amounts in the course of a month, claiming it was good for his psychology, and writing that he told his wife to watch him the first time, but she fell asleep and he was fine and now he doesn’t need anyone.

My brother is in his 50s and has no experience with such things. He doesn’t even like weed.

So I do not think this is necessarily a good thing. It could be a good thing if this sort of thing was done under the supervision of a medical professional, but they are selling them via Facebook ads.

Worse, they are also selling ketamine via Facebook ads and also touting its psychological benefits. Again, getting mentally ill people ketamine could be a good thing if done under medical supervision. That’s not happening either.

If you want to do shrooms or even ketamine recreationally, I think that should be your right. But this is like selling people random amounts of lithium and telling them about all the great stuff lithium can do for you.

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Yeah, I made a post up thread about microdosing, and how what we know from animal studies is that it’s a really small amount.

Additionally mushroom gummies being sold online are likely not psilocybin. There’s several other species of mushroom that are psychoactive and have other pharmaceuticals in them. Amanita is one, chaga is another. Both of these are common in mushroom gummies and chocolates that I’ve seen being sold in head shops.

They’re not psilocybin mushrooms. Shipping psilocybin across state lines is absolutely illegal.

If you want to pick my brain about any of this squid feel free to shoot me a direct message. I’m a mushroom nerd and drug nerd. And have some college credits in pharmacology.

I’m also a frog. The frog that enjoys reading your posts.

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I appreciate the offer, but not only am I his little brother, I’m his little brother by 11 years (I was planned, really). He doesn’t listen to any advice I give him on anything because as far as he’s concerned, I’m still the 5-year-old he left when he went to college. He has a lot of… shall we say interesting ideas about how the universe works lately. It’s not just the gummies, but they haven’t helped.

And I’m not exactly shocked that they aren’t psilocybin. I knew there was some sort of catch here or they wouldn’t be allowed to sell them, but I thought it was one of those legal delta 8 THC vs. illegal natural cannabis things like they have here in Indiana. Some sort of “we made it in a lab, therefore it isn’t the illegal thing” loophole. This makes more sense though.

However, if you can explain to me why everyone I know goes out in the woods and finds baskets full of morels in the spring and not only have I never had the chance to eat one, I’ve never even seen one growing, feel free. They can’t.

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Morels have a symbiotic relationship with the plant that they grow with. Most often elm trees.

The colony can live a long time. Depending on the species of morels 100 years, you know like as long as a tree will live. During this time they store nutrients in what is commonly called a truffle, mycologists call that a sclerotia. It’s essentially a knot of mycelium packed full of nutrients, that they will fruit out of once they are separated from their food source, i.e. the tree.

Areas that have been hit by Dutch elm disease end up seeing a lot of morels fruiting, because a lot of trees are dying. Additionally morels like to fruit when the ground temperature is around 50 to 60°. Usually this will be on a south facing hill early in the spring if you are in the northern equator. As well as areas not getting so much direct sunlight later on in the spring.

Aside from that, like all mushrooms they enjoy fruiting after a rainfall. So the best time to look for them is when the ground temperature is 50 to 60°, it’s just rained, and the best place to look for them is in areas with lots of elm trees. Especially elms that are dying from Dutch elm.

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Do it.

They are awesome, non-addictive and physiologically safe.

Make sure you’re in a safe, comfortable place, and if you’re doing them with other people, make sure you trust those people, but otherwise have a blast.

Magic mushrooms are the “drug” I really do think everybody should try.

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It’s not safe for people in maoi inhibitors and a few other drugs. This includes certain antidepressants which are quite common.

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Yup… absolutely do not take them if you have had SSRIs in your system within the past 60 days.

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I took mushrooms, high dose and micro, while on SSRI’s. There’s the smallest, most miniscule chance of seretonin syndrome. But 9999 times out of 10000 you’ll be fine.

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Psilocybin is physiologically safe for people.

As with water, psilocybin can be dangerous to mix with toxic chemicals.

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Why did you put “drug” in quotes?

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Because everything is a drug and magic mushrooms themselves aren’t the drug in question, psilocybin is.

Also, calling caffeine, heroin and mushrooms a “drug” belies a problem with labeling.

Magic mushrooms, incidentally, being the least toxic of those substances.

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Drug is a word with a lot of double speak/propaganda around it. Like, the war on drugs. The meaning of the word drug in that sentence is to be drugged, as in like alcohol drugs you, heroin drugs you, and if we call mushrooms and LSD drugs we are saying that they do what alcohol and heroin do, which is take you away from yourself.

Drugs can also mean medicine. But that’s not what the Nixon administration meant by the word drug when they passed the controlled substances act.

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What is a “drug” and what isn’t is an arbitrary, made-up distinction. There are only molecules.

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I have easy access to them but even so the first time I had mushrooms when I was 12 wasn’t cool and I may have some unexpected trauma from that experience.

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Unwritten rule that I guess we should write: no drugs for children.

They don’t need their minds expanded, their tiny minds are still sealing themselves together.

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Also, people should start with small doses and work their way up.

In fact, there’s a lot of research and care people should do beforehand. Mushrooms can be a wonderful experience, but can also be a traumatic one. Learning about them ahead of time goes a long way.

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Yeah. Tell that to Australian tourists.

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I guess I would be one of them. Back in high school, it was the only other drug I tried once outside of pot. Then, I proceeded to never have it again until my friends (also same friends from high school) started getting it more and more lately. I barely get to see them but I would say it’s probably once every 4-6 months now that I dive in.

I do think the gateway to this was the readily available chocolate shroom bars that were popping up everywhere were I live and got us all to just say sure why not. Now it’s a mix of that and also just its self plain or chop it up and steep it for a tea. We all love it and have some great times together doing it.

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A vape shop I get my weed from (I’m in a legal state and it’s locally sourced, so somewhat less sketchy than your average vape shop weed) got something similar to chocolate shroom bars and I’ve certainly considered it, but, again, vape shop. Don’t buy weird shit from a vape shop.

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I would be one of them if I could find a trusted source for mushrooms.

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You can buy a pre-sanitized jar and a syringe of spores. The you basically just squirt the spores into the sterile jar and let them grow

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Grow your own. A monotub is a pretty easy build.

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Which is why a lot of people start growing them themselves.

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