178 points

Welp… There goes physical media…

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Yep, I’m sure it’ll be gone Verbatim.

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29 points

Take your upvote

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Its an old code but it checks out 😅

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It’s just one company, it’s not all the Blu-ray production stopping. I think the last time I bought any Sony recordable media was CD-Rs for my MP3 CD player in the mid 00s.

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Sony owns the blu-ray format. I’m worried.

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They do not own it, they did co-develop it. They’ve never owned it outright.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc_Association

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Why are you worried about Sony owning the blu-ray format?

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-7 points

There’s still the super-DVDs, or whatever they were called.

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-10 points

You thought blu ray sales would just continue forever?

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27 points

🏴‍☠️

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I always preferred the rips fork Blu rays though. They had the highest quality video and audio and stuff. This sucks so much =(

EDIT: I just read someone else’s comment that although they developed it they don’t own it outright so that makes me feel a little better that hopefully other people can still make them.

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9 points

How do SSDs and HDDs compare to optical disks in terms of stability in storage? SSD bits can lose charge over time until a lot of 1s read as 0s, right?

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8 points

SSDs are pretty pricey for video. I use HDDs, mirrored. For some uses I put a SSD caching layer on top to speed up frequent R/W. Using only LVM, no fancy RAID hardware or anything.

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2 points

ZFS FTW

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I upgraded my datahoarding server to a pair of 18TB hard drives on ZFS with mirroring a little while back. It’ll be several years before I need to upgrade again, but I expect that when I do, SSDs will be cheap enough to go that route.

Already have a 10Gbps fiber connection to that server, so the hard drives are the bottleneck.

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2 points

Commercially pressed discs don’t last forever, but longer than burnable discs. IIRC, they used to say 50 years for CDs, but in practice, it was a lot less. More like 20 or 30 if you store and handle them nicely. Easily less than 10 if you don’t.

Hard drives go bad over time; I don’t like trusting spinning platters much over 7 years. They can be OK, but they can suddenly stop working whenever.

SSDs are about the same as spinning platters.

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I think we are talking about archival storage rather than storage in use. In which case hard drives can last decades.

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I guess hard drives and SSDs don’t count as physical somehow?

Even on a streaming service, the files are stored physically somewhere.

All media is still, technically, physical media.

Even when you stream it locally and don’t have access to the file itself, it physically lives in your RAM for the duration of the stream.

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hard drives and SSDs don’t count as physical

When was the last time you walked into any store and bought a feature length film or tv show on hard drive or SSD?

Even on a streaming service, the files are stored physically somewhere.

What is your plan when the licence agreement for your favorite series expires on your chosen streaming service and no other streaming service picks up the show?

All media is still, technically, physical media

No one is arguing this. You’re making the strawman arguement. The not-so-subtle undertone of the article is clear.

Quoting the article:

The planned job cuts come amid a decline in demand for traditional storage formats such as Blu-ray discs, with streaming services now the norm.

The electronics and entertainment conglomerate will also gradually cease production of optical disc storage media products, including Blu-ray discs, according to the sources.

You will not be allowed to legally own tv shows or films and you should learn to like it. As I can tell from many of the other comments here, not many of us are fans of that idea.

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What is your plan when the licence agreement for your favorite series expires on your chosen streaming service and no other streaming service picks up the show?

Watch the other millions of hours of media that’s been released in the last 100 years

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When was the last time you walked into any store and bought a feature length film or tv show on hard drive or SSD?

Well not ANYMORE!!! Not since Best Buy stopped carrying physical media!!!

/s

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This isn’t a hill I care enough to die on.

I’ve never bought a series in any format. It’s always been piracy and for at least the last 5 years catch and release.

What I mean is, I don’t want to keep series in any case.

That said, now I think about it, if I didn’t pirate everything then keeping copies of what I’d paid for world feel important

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25 points

You are very much missing the point for the sake of a pedantic argument.

Someone else already perfectly illustrated the point in a comment below, so I guess I’m spared the effort.

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it physically lives in your RAM for the duration of the stream.

It physically lives encrypted in your RAM and only temporarily. Remember TPM exists.

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storing a movie in RAM does not count as having a physical copy of the movie. While RAM is a form of physical media, the data stored in RAM is volatile and temporary. A physical copy of a movie typically refers to a more permanent and tangible form of storage, such as on a hard drive, SSD, USB flash drive, CD, DVD, or Blu-ray disc.

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Still there for the duration. Being encrypted just makes it akin to being inside a locked box. Being in RAM is like it being transferred in an escrow service.

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the term “physical media” typically refers to portable physical media, such as floppy disks, optical media, and other solutions such as tape.

This term was in wide use before portable hard drives became a thing.

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112 points

the whole point is to stop you from owning physical media so they can arbitrarily raise prices by creating artificial cause and demand through artificial scarcity.

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anyone remember when the argument for digital goods was " We wont have to waste money on boxes, printing, media, storage, or shipping! So your goods will be cheaper than ever, and everyone will still get a more profitable cut!"

Pepperidge farm Remembers, because Pepperidge farm called bullshit on the argument back at the very start, and said they would get rid of physical media, not lower prices, and that we would lose ownership of our purchases… and the internet poopoo’d me to hell in back calling me paranoid and stupid for it.

and look where we are.

and its so goddamn fucked up I don’t even get a single molecule of serotonin from being right about it.

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7 points

The internet is chock full of idiots who piss all over Cassandra

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4 points

I dunno. Steam did it well enough. I was buying cheap games for years. I could get a kick ass GOTY game for like $5 while GameStop was still selling it used on consoles for $20.

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You do realize you don’t “own” anything on Steam right? Every dollar you give them is towards a “subscription” to play the game.

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That makes this even more depressing. Sailing the high seas is the life for me.

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But where to store it all now?

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More hard drives. RAID, rotate them out when they fail, more backups too. lol

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7 points

Jokes on Sony, they stopped getting my money years ago.

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Damn, that’s some Qanon-level shit.

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I mean, except it’s not a conspiracy. The death of physical media is an actual tragedy because digital media is nowhere near as free.

It’s to the point where much of the media I love is actually not available legally and officially for physical ownership, in some cases becoming actual lost media physically, and not available for purchase or even download anymore.

Companies absolutely want to control the consumption of media in more restrictive ways that they can control, it’s not a conspiracy, it’s the actual truth.

DRM, always online, digital only, subscription services - they are all designed to remove you further and further from being an owner.

Everything from video games, music, movies…all entertainment media is moving in this direction and it’s an actual tragedy.

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becoming actual lost media physically

Reminded me of that Cowboy Bebop episode where they so hunting for a VCR.

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and the fact that they’ve already done it with the disney vault.

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Or… they’re stopping production because there’s very little demand. Nah, that can’t be it.

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59 points

After spending all that money and effort to kill HDDVD. 😆

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That was 15 years ago.

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So here’s how HDDVD can still win…

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There is a ton of HD-DVD disc rot today. For a format, it definitely did not hold up to age.

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57 points

I’ll be sure to buy extras, since it’s clear this is yet another push towards the consumer market not deserving to own their media.

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Apparently “recordable media” here means the kind you can record on at home, e.g. CD-R, DVD-R.

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Ah, now that makes more sense, my PC doesn’t even have a drive bay.

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? . . . as opposed to - ?

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As opposed to the discs movies are sold on.

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Ah! Yes. Hm. Well then . . . where do distributors get theirs from? Not Sony, presumably?

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- as opposed to +

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