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Panel 1: Bilbo Baggins ponders, “After all… why should I care about the difference between int and String?

Panel 2: Bilbo Baggins is revealed to be an API developer. He continues, “JSON is always String, anyways…”

48 points

“1” + “1”

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49 points

“11”

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7 points

int(“11”)

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24 points

strings are in base two, got it

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38 points

Wouldn’t the answer be “10” in that case?

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9 points

That’s unary.

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1 point

Strings are in base whatever roman numerals are.

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44 points

These JSON memes got me feeing like some junior dev out there is upset because they haven’t read and understood the docs.

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46 points

"true"

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14 points

Timing is about right for it to be a batch of newly minted CS grads getting into their first corporate jobs.

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6 points

Comments? Comments? Who needs comments?

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26 points

You guys have docs?

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2 points

The code is my bible.

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6 points

The schema is this SQL statement

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0 points

You guys can read?

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110 points
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To whoever does that, I hope that there is a special place in hell where they force you to do type safe API bindings for a JSON API, and every time you use the wrong type for a value, they cave your skull in.

Sincerely, a frustrated Rust dev

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37 points

“Hey, it appears to be int most of the time except that one time it has letters.”

throws keyboard in trash

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16 points

Rust has perfectly fine tools to deal with such issues, namely enums. Of course that cascades through every bit of related code and is a major pain.

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24 points

Sadly it doesn’t fix the bad documentation problem. I often don’t care that a field is special and either give a string or number. This is fine.

What is not fine, and which should sentence you to eternal punishment, is to not clearly document it.

Don’t you love when you publish a crate, have tested it on thousands of returned objects, only for the first issue be “field is sometimes null/other type?”. You really start questioning everything about the API, and sometimes you’d rather parse it as serde::Value and call it a day.

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4 points

True, and also true.

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1 point

This man has interacted with SAP.

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9 points

The worst thing is: you can’t even put an int in a json file. Only doubles. For most people that is fine, since a double can function as a 32 bit int. But not when you are using 64 bit identifiers or timestamps.

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34 points

That’s an artifact of JavaScript, not JSON. The JSON spec states that numbers are a sequence of digits with up to one decimal point. Implementations are not obligated to decode numbers as floating point. Go will happily decode into a 64-bit int, or into an arbitrary precision number.

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-3 points

What that means is that you cannot rely on numbers in JSON. Just use strings.

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4 points

Relax, it’s just JSON. If you wanted to not be stringly-typed, you’d have not used JSON.

(though to be fair, I hate it when people do bullshit types, but they got a point in that you ought to not use JSON in the first place if it matters)

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2 points

As if I had a choice. Most of the time I’m only on the receiving end, not the sending end. I can’t just magically use something else when that something else doesn’t exist.

Heck, even when I’m on the sending end, I’d use JSON. Just not bullshit ones. It’s not complicated to only have static types, or having discriminant fields

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You HAVE to. I am a Rust dev too and I’m telling you, if you don’t convert numbers to strings in json, browsers are going to overflow them and you will have incomprehensible bugs. Json can only be trusted when serde is used on both ends

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This is understandable in that use case. But it’s not everyday that you deal with values in the range of overflows. So I mostly assumed this is fine in that use case.

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2 points

Well, apart from float numbers and booleans, all other types can only be represented by a string in JSON. Date with timezone? String. BigNumber/Decimal? String. Enum? String. Everything is a string in JSON, so why bother?

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I got nothing against other types. Just numbers/misleading types.

Although, enum variants shall have a label field for identification if they aren’t automatically inferable.

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4 points

Well, the issue is that JSON is based on JS types, but other languages can interpret the values in different ways. For example, Rust can interpret a number as a 64 bit int, but JS will always interpret a number as a double. So you cannot rely on numbers to represent data correctly between systems you don’t control or systems written in different languages.

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No problem with strings in JSON, until some smart developer you get JSONs from decides to interchangeably use String and number, and maybe a boolean (but only false) to show that the value is not set, and of course null for a missing value that was supposed to be optional all along but go figure that it was

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7 points

A string that represents types…

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8 points

If a item can have different type, those label fields are actually quite useful. So I don’t see the problem

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7 points

Explicit types are just laziness, you should be catching exceptions anyways.

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8 points

I do. I return an error.

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