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Are we talking about Hillary the Drone strike Julian Assange, Clinton here? “Genocide Joe” is absolutely fucking nothing compared to her.

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Holy fuck, didn’t know 😶

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Things could be different but they’re not

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Hillary would have done the same thing as Biden on Israel

Democrats have failed to fix all the insane crap Regean did because the DNC learned about how much money they were missing out on

I still maintain Bernie should run independent. The DNC ensures he will never win the primary, and it was proven by the email leak back in 2016 which is why no one voted for Hillary.

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Maybe we could find a 50 yo with Bernie’s values and he could be on their cabinet. Idgaf about vibes, but maybe we could put someone in that’s not on deaths door?

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In a first-past-the-post system, an independent only ends up stealing votes from the mainstream candidate that’s closest to their position. He’d undermine the Democratic candidate, making a Republican win more likely. He’s smart enough not to want to do that.

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Nah it was Bush vs Kerry.

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Not Bush v Gore? Not Reagan v Carter? Not Reagan v Mondale? By ‘04, most of what the neocons were doing to us was already done. Patriot act, both wars, abu ghraib…I honestly think by ‘04 the damage was done. Pretty sure even “no child left behind” was ‘03

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I think you all have a delusionally inflated opinion of both Bernie Sanders and progressive politics as a whole.

Bernie is a self described socialist. He lost in the primaries to middling candidates in both 2016 and 2020. He in particular has dismal performance among women over 30 and black people as a whole.

The progressive movement as a whole is even worse. At least Bernie makes an attempt to win hearts and minds. Progressives are obsessed with insane purity tests and horrible messaging that alienates everyone who doesn’t already agree with them.

Look at this tweet. The whole “anyone remotely to the right of me on Israel/Palestine is morally repugnant” stuff works in echo chambers, but would get you absolutely rocked in an election.

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This post isn’t going to be popular on Lemmy but it is extremely accurate.

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(Woman over 30 here) I caucused for Bernie in Nevada in 2020, and he won the state my dude. He also won Iowa, New Hampshire, California, and Colorado before dropping out. Where do you think our love for Bernie is “over inflated”? He had support amongst the people.

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If by “the people”, you mean “a minority of voters in the democratic primaries, which historically are a lot more amicable to progressive candidates such as Bernie than the general electorate” then sure.

Bernie dropped out because there was no realistic way for him to win the primaries. He’d get bodied in the general election.

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Who are you replying to?

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Once people started learning more about Bernie, they would more than likely be a supporter.

https://twitter.com/kendrick38/status/1233214590588248069

Biden has the support of 31 percent of black Democratic primary voters, while Sanders captures the backing of 29 percent. Aggregated data from 2019 shows that Biden led Sanders among these voters by as much as 30 percentage points in NBC News/WSJ national polls last year.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/nbc-news-wsj-poll-sanders-gains-ground-biden-black-voters-n1140166

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