cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17119069

“In every use of official power, the president is now a king above the law,” warned Justice Sonia Sotomayor. “With fear for our democracy, I dissent.”

111 points

Cool, Biden should use those new get out of jail free cards to do a lot of shit to improve the lives of Americans and probibit Project 2025.

The party about of rule of law just got told it’s rule of law to just do whatever as president, so go nuts. Pack the court. Forcibly remove the supreme Court. Ignore it.

Hell the constitution never even said the Court has the right to interpret and block laws, that was due to the Court expanding its own power. We just went with it because Jefferson had his own Xanatos Gambit played on him.

Come on Biden do something really cool with this, make them regret it.

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21 points

Have the GoP and the traitors on the supreme court taste the death penalty. Then repeal all this crap they put in place (no way to override the GoP all being dead after the fact. I’d go with banishment or any other number of things if it was guaranteed to work, but the only thing that can’t potentially be lifted after the fact is death)

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Murder and political persecution are the weapon of the enemy. We do not need it, we will not use it.

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16 points

Oh man lemme just persuade the fascists that I shouldn’t be killed. Lemme just vote out my neighbors and corrupt cops. Free market place of ideas, where the owners of the marketplace decide what’s neutral, what’s amoral, and what’s being sold.

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16 points

Self-defense isn’t murder.

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12 points

Bullshit. Go John Brown on them. The oppressed have not gotten freedoms just by asking nicely.

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110 points

So, open season for Biden to get some Supreme Court justices an “early retirement” then?

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34 points

Be sure that everyone knows it’s official and then sleep easy.

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27 points

Yes, but in classic dem fashion he’ll do absolutely nothing with this new power, and also do nothing to stop its use. Then will continue running a dogshit campaign to get trump re-elected come November. We are well and truly fucked.

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75 points

I was genuinely not expecting this. As little reason as this Supreme Court has given to inspire confidence, I thought this was a bridge too. I feel sick to my stomach.

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46 points
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It’s absolutely sickening. The fact they took up the case to begin with was sickening. We need Biden to take hold of this decision and make some official acts that can restore democracy. Biden can be the first president since Washington to do what Washington did, heal our nation and then surrender power back to We the People. Dead King Geoge III is laughing at us and the blood of the American Revolution groans in disgust at these Injustices!

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34 points

“We can go lower.”

-SCOTUS

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23 points

I had felt the same way, until they ruled that partisan gerrymandering is constitutionally protected, that racial gerrymandering can only be unconstitutional if it doesn’t provide a partisan advantage to one side, and that the court must assume that legislators are acting in good faith because their need to not be embarrassed outweighs the constitutional rights of the people and the need for honest elections. I read that decision and said “shit, they’re gonna rule that Trump’s immune.”

I never thought the Court would put out a decision that could rival Dred Scott for worst in history, but these asshole’s have put out multiple contenders for that title in a single term.

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5 points

You’d still have to beat Citizens United.

Plus it’s kinda John Roberts’ whole jam, taking away voting rights

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3 points

Unfortunately they strongly signalled this move in the oral questioning bit. It was pretty much expected. Now bonking a porn star will become classed as an official act.

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0 points

The act the con man committed was before being elected. That one will be a poo stain on him for much longer.

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44 points

Is it wrong to wish that Biden would immediately drone strike the justices that are in the majority for this decision?

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21 points

Trump and his MAGA cult are a clear and present danger to our democracy and its citizens.

The SCOTUS is majority controlled by corrupt federalists openly colluding with lower courts and federalist donors to bypass our elected lawmakers (congress/senate/potus) to effectively unilaterally write policy. This is a clear and present danger to our democracy.

Biden has justification to clean house under official pretext.

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12 points

Morally, maybe? Legally, no. It’s very explicitly ok.

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8 points

As long as those drone strikes are officially official, then sure, he has immunity.

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42 points

This is oversimplifying it. They did not define “official acts”, obviously, but goose and gander. Biden is now available to use these new powers, and should.

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49 points

In her dissent, Sotomayor made it pretty clear that that doesn’t matter.

“When he uses his official powers in any way, under the majority’s reasoning, he now will be insulated from criminal prosecution,” Sotomayor wrote. “Orders the Navy’s SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune. Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune. Immune, immune, immune.”

“In every use of official power, the president is now a king above the law,” the justice added.

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16 points

The dissent is not the prevailing ruling though. The other MAGA dip shits on the court just left the door open to anything for the next 6 months. All horrific derivatives of this timeline, sure. But they can’t stop the current administration apparently from doing the same shit without immunity until the next ruling. They’re just banking on the fact that Biden isn’t a gigantic piece of shit and will never pull the trigger on using any of these options.

I guarantee his team is sitting in a room right now coming up with ideas.

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27 points

Yeah I hear you, but that door they left open is exactly why it doesn’t matter. By not defining official acts, they essentially gave themselves the authority to make that determination later, which means anything done as president can be considered official, as long as they say so. This was another power grab for them and any republicans who want to use it, but you can be sure the rules would be different for democrats.

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14 points

If Biden were to use his powers to force the 6 conservative Supreme Court Justices out, then there wouldn’t be anybody on the court who would disagree with the minority interpretation.

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I guarantee his team is sitting in a room right now coming up with ideas.

No, they aren’t. Their plan is to yell really loudly about how unacceptable the ruling is. That’s it.

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32 points

If Biden does the exact same thing as the orange turd, the packed courts will rule that Biden’s actions were not official but the angry orange’s were.

The decision is entirely a power grab that will be abused by conservatives and not by anyone with morals. That is what these fascists are counting on.

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14 points

Biden could unpack those courts as an official act and pack it with his own judges, who would rule on the outcome.

This is obviously what Trump would do in the same position. But it’s highly doubtful that Biden will.

It would set an insanely dangerous precedent. But if he doesn’t, Republicans will the next time they hold the presidency.

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6 points

They don’t even need to. The same court that made this decision will say everything he does is official and (now) very legal. Some old conservatives will retire to be replaced by Eileen Cannon (she gets both of their seats), and the court just needs to sit back and endorse the fascism. They’ve already done the daring act, now everything else is procedure.

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8 points

Depends entirely on what is done in the next 6 months…

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10 points

Biden won’t abuse this power because he isn’t a complete trash person and SCOTUS knows it. They know that the only party that will abuse this power is the Republican party.

So until this trash opinion is undone, every single election is an imminent threat to democracy.

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12 points

Biden for King 2024! Vote blue! Brought to you by conservative Chief Justice Roberts.

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They’ll never do it, but they left that door open in some sense.

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