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Did he even watch the debate? Biden played right into the right-wing narrative about him. The only way Biden wins this thing is by getting out there, talking to every reporter, holding every baby, and proving that the debate was a fluke. I don’t think he can do it.

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I don’t think he can do it.

And if he can, why the hell isn’t he?!?!

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It’s not like it’s a singular action he can take. It’s going to take weeks of consistent behavior before people believe any kind of short-term issue like a cold.

Can he do it is one question. Is there enough time is another.

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Exactly, it’s not about a single thing he can do. But more importantly there’s nothing anything anyone else can do but point out his shortcomings…

Also, it’s not about anything specific he could have done… after all he can only do the one specific thing I’ll allow… but he’s not allowed to do anything else anyone could do about anything… that wouldn’t be fair.

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Biden should have booked a tough sit down interview for the weekend after the debate to show he has the mental chops and ability to communicate the stakes of this campaign. Instead it’s been five days now since the debate and Biden hasn’t spoken publicly without a teleprompter. Hell dem governors and members of congress, including party leaders, have not spoken to Biden since the debate. Biden is doing basically nothing to calm people down. Hiding him and only rolling him out with a teleprompter in tow just plays into the republican conspiracy that Biden has had a significant decline. To the point that it’s starting to not seem like a conspiracy. If Biden wants to stay in the race, he needs to fix this, like yesterday. Is the reason he hasn’t done so yet because he can’t do it? If so, wtf is he still in the race??

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7 points

Which narrative? They have multiple to cover every outcome.

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When he’s lucid, he’s on drugs. When he’s not, he’s sleepy Joe. You can’t win by placating the right. Independents and democrats do have real concerns, and the DNC can ignore them at their own peril.

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Independents and democrats do have real concerns, and the DNC can ignore them at their own our peril.

FTFY

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You can’t win by placating the right.

Yes, but the alternative involves moving left. Party leadership would rather lose and blame the left than embrace them.

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The only way Biden wins is if every sane person holds the line and votes

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Bold of you to assume the sane are the majority in this country.

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it’s worse than that given the electoral college setup. An outright majority doesn’t really matter.

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The Democratic Party held 57 primaries and caucuses; voters in all 50 states, the District of Columbia, and five U.S. territories had their say

Not a single primary candidate besides Biden appeared on a majority of states ballots, and many states literally only had Biden. Democrats did not have a primary this year.

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Right? I don’t remember seeing a debate or anything. It’s equivalent to those elections people make fun of in North Korea, where the choices are the leader and nobody.

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His percentages were even higher than Putin in those races

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This article is fucking absurd. It holds up the primary as a paragon if the democratic process, even though Biden was the only candidate to have universal ballot access, and ignores the fact that two-thirds of Democratic didn’t want him to run. It compares the Drop-Biden advocates to the January 6th protesters, even though they’re advocating for a contested convention, which is the same process that was used until 1970. And to top it all off, it’s written by Stuart Stevens, AKA Mitt Romney’s 2012 campaign strategist. Why should the Democrats be taking advice from a Republican strategist, especially one that’s already botched a presidential campaign?

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Primaries are also weird because depending on what state you live in the election is often decided before you even get to vote. Imagine living in a state as big as California and having no impact on the primary.

If the general election can be one day maybe so can the primary.

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That’s a feature, not a bug. The party leaders like having time to craft a narrative and create momentum behind their preferred candidate. It’s how Biden’s campaign managed to come back from the dead in 2020. If the primaries were all held on the same day, these pundits wouldn’t be telling us to stick with Biden, they’d be telling us Bernie is too old for a second term.

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Imagine living in a state as big as California and having no impact on the primary.

After South Carolina has decided for you.

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I voted uncommitted for a lot of reasons, and this is one of them. Getting Biden out and having a brokered convention certainly expresses my democratic will.

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Why should the Democrats be taking advice from a Republican strategist

Consistency?

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So the Democratic Party doesn’t actually favor democracy?

Next you’ll tell me North Korea, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, isn’t actually democratic either.

The Dems coronated Biden while screaming at the top of their lungs how much they love democracy.

Goddamn I am tired of being gaslit.

Super tired of bullshit.

Tired of lies. Just because Trump lies 10 times for every 7 words he speaks does not mean I want a party that claims to rep my interests for me to lie to me 4 times for every 7 words. Jesus fucking H Christ. “But we the Dems only raped you a little bit, and the GOP will rape you more.” Go fuck yourselves with that logic, Dem scum.

We need a giant country-wide systemic reset and the Dem leadership is thinking what kind of crumb they can still throw at the plebs without upsetting their precious billionaire donors.

The Dems slow-walked us to fascism while blaming the GOP. The Dems take zero personal responsibility.

The Democratic Party cannot fail us, it can only be failed by us.

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The Democratic Party held 57 primaries and caucuses; voters in all 50 states, the District of Columbia, and five U.S. territories had their say, as did Democrats abroad. Joe Biden won 87 percent of the total vote.

The fuq? There weren’t any challengers except for a guy with a brain worm. We didn’t have a primary, and now we are seeing the consequences of not having a primary.

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Dean Phillips and Marianne Williamson are very confused about this statement. They both primaried Biden. Phillips got 20% in NH

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Williamson was kept off the ballot in almost half of all states. Phillips was kept off the ballot in more than half of them. It’s hard to believe it’s a real primary when only one candidate has universal ballot access.

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Candidates have to get a certain amount of signatures before getting ballot access on the primary in a state.

Williamson and Phillips weren’t able to do that everywhere, and Biden was, that’s on them not having as many campaign resources as a literal incumbent U.S. President, not the DNC somehow keeping them off the ballot.

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There were no challengers, exactly. Someone could have challenged him.

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DNC Leadership: We won’t have a real primary, that’ll weaken the incumbent, who’ll probably win anyway. And remember, if you don’t get behind our anointed candidate, you’re anti-democratic.

The numbers are already coming in, the debate hurt Biden, and badly. Why does “Democracy is on the line” only mean voters are required to show up to vote for whoever DNC Leadership chose for us? Why do they have no obligation to put their best foot forward?

They’re gonna bet democracy on “We don’t really have a plan to turn this around, we’re just gonna keep doing what we’ve been doing and hope things get better.” The man is ancient, his brain is not gonna suddenly start improving. People know how aging works, and know that even if he never flops that badly on camera again, it’s just because he was never on camera at the wrong time.

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It’s 4 months before the election.

Edit: Look at this - a classic case of a basic fact being down voted on Lemmy.

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And every day he holds off on giving up the nomination is a day his actually viable replacement is deprived of. The latest DNC internal polling shows him even farther behind in swing states and on the verge of losing some reliably blue states.

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And the national convention hasn’t happened yet. He’s not officially the candidate until appointed at the convention.

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I guess the point is that to replace Biden would drive chaos that would last longer than 4 months and be self defeating.

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Edit: Look at this - a classic case of a basic fact being down voted on Lemmy.

Fuck off with that. People aren’t downvoting a basic fact, they’re downvoting the implication that 4 months means we’re stuck with Biden.

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You make your own implications.

That’s called a fact and there is literally nothing you can do about it.

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I don’t think people are downvoting a fact; I think they’re downvoting a comment which doesn’t meaningfully contribute to the discussion, since by your own admission it’s a just a fact and a fact without context or stated implications is virtually meaningless.

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So, no implications for you. How convenient

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Fuck

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The circlejerk is real on this post. Tons of bad takes and misinformation from the same “genocide Joe” shitposters as usual.

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