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Very cool but Proton Drive for Linux when?

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They don’t care.

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That might be it. Whatever the reason, it seems like a missed opportunity. Especially when they go out of their way to provide direct APKs to Android users who do not use Play Store.

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They might have done their stats and figured out that only 0.0000001% of their users would benefit from it and there weren’t much profit there to make.

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Especially when they go out of their way to provide direct APKs to Android users who do not use Play Store.

They already had to make the APK for the Play Store, providing it directly doesn’t require extra dev work.

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They need Linux developers to help.

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Where’s the source code? Seriously, the only thing I can find for drive & calander are repos that were archived in 2021

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I don’t think they don’t care, they have been adding Linux versions for all of their apps (except drive of course). The CEO themselves said in an interview that a Linux client for drive is inevitable and they will make one, but one of the hardest clients to develop.

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The guy who made the Backblaze software said it was already done and was easy for their standard client to work with Linux but never got rolled out because Linux users are power users. I wonder if that is the real reason when it comes to Proton. It’s not unlimited but maybe there is some power user use that they anticipate and don’t want to deal with.

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I feel like their goal is more close to providing a privacy-minded alternative to Google’s G-suite to “regular” users, so for me it totally makes sense. But yeah, I’m also really waiting for the Linux drive app.

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Doesn’t rclone work?

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I’m gonna try to see if you can use a windows vm with proton drive and a shared folder with the host system. Kinda a pain, but if it works it works. What I’d really love is an api for this kind of asshattery

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It doesn’t make financial sense to spend money on supporting an entire new platform that’s used by <3% of the population.

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“After years of pushing their proprietary and closed solutions to privacy minded people Proton decided that it was in their best interest to further bury said users into their service as a form of vendor lock-in. To achieve this they made yet anoter non-standard groupware feature - a document editor.

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I want Proton to replace Google. I wish for that. And during this time we can use open source software as well

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Exactly. At this point idk why anyone bothers migrating to things that are not backed by open standards. The price of vendor lock-in always comes.

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Until I can easily export the data, where is the vendor lock?

Vendor lock means that migrating away has significant cost or technical challenges.

Take this case: documents saved are first of all easily downloadable from drive (in bulk), and also exportable in markdown.

They change pricing/add features that I don’t want/sell off the company (hard now that it’s managed by a nonprofit but still) etc.? I make a nice bulk download and move everything in whatever other system I want. I can do the same for contacts, email (I use my own domains) and calendar. Basically, 1h + the time to download files and I am moved to another provider.

Can you elaborate in what you think the vendor lock looks like?

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Is there an open standard for encrypted asynchronous colabreative document creation and editing?

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As open components, we have the OpenDocument standard + signal protocol for E2EE + CRDTs for conflict resolution. No idea whether they’re compatible though.

As a product, Collabora Online is open and collaborative.

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Collabra seems close. They do use ODF. And you can host you’re own server.
But they don’t seem to use E2EE. And the collaborative aspect doesn’t apear to be an open standard you can use with different software packages.

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9 points

What would be the benefits of this over Nextcloud, apart from not having to set it up?

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I don’t think it’s Nextcloud competition so much as Google Drive competition, which is certainly closed-source.

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Nextcloud doesn’t do end-to-end encryption

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Interesting, thanks for sharing. I wonder if anyone has made a fork of it that does.

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Lack of true open cooperation? Oh wait, you said benefit… Ease of use? Maybe? And slightly less buggy?

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Over nextcloud probably the e2ee. I suppose soon they will also integrate this better with email (like you can attach directly and save directly from email), so the seamless integrations with the rest of the products will probably amount to other benefits over time.

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Has anyone used it?

How did you get to it?

Clicked the link:

At that time, if you go to drive.proton.me(new window) and click on New in the top left, you will see the ability to create a New document

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Proton Drive requires Javascript. Enable Javascript and reload this page to continue.

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Did you just respond to your own comment?

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Nice.

This might just be the push to fully switch over from Google.

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I would need spreadsheets and slideshow presentations as well.

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