Trump judge?
“Corporations are presidents, my friend!”
My first question coming into this thread was, “is this a Trump judge?” I’m glad OP answered that in the post!
Not everyone was a fan of the non-compete ban, this year or last. Republicans and other proponents of the clauses said they help prevent trained employees and their skills from being poached by competitors.
Wah! Pay people better and treat them like real people and they won’t need to be poached.
What’s hilarious is that they don’t really do all that much training anymore.
They just hire people who already have the skills. or tell people to “figure it out”. They might pay you to go to a conference or something to improve skills… if those skills are hard to come by. It’s a cost benefit analysis, and new-hires are generally cheaper.
Have the courts ever addressed the conflict between “employment at will” and this?
On side, we get rid of you when and how we please…
But you can’t go get another job because “slave master has property interest in you”
It seems like “master” mentality is still very strong within elites.
Judges aren’t interested in being consistent, it’s just about oppressing you and upholding capital.
Yes it does appear to be that way. Even when Congress does a good thing, it gets stalled or shut down.
Can’t rely on elected officials to deliver proper laws, executive appears to be useless and judges will stop any progress.
How many generations of this now 2 or 3?
How many generations of this now 2 or 3?
It’s been continuous since colonial times. It’s an unbroken thread from “indentured servitude” and “slavery,” to “sharecropping” and “vagrancy”/“convict leasing,” to “non-compete agreements” and prison labor being managed by prisons directly (instead of having inmates leased out).
sets a dangerous precedent where the government knows better than the markets
Wtf. You could say this about literally any law. Outlawing murder-for-hire sets a dangerous precedent where the government knows better than the markets. Making people pay income tax sets a dangerous precedent where the government knows better than the markets. Speed limits set a dangerous precedent where the government knows better than the markets. What a terrible argument.
Is there any legal argument besides this?
This sounds like a personal opinion lol
Yes.
Under employment laws you can quit basically at any time with given notice and you can apply to any job no matter who you are or what you did before. The non compete clauses are always part of the employment contract. Usually, what’s in the contract is binding, but: there’s things that might be voided upon examination. Here things like consideration and unconscionability come into play. I assume this clause would be ruled unconscionable against employment laws, therefore the clause is basically removed from contracts after the fact and precedent allows for it to be voided upon future use.
employment laws > contract law. That’s all it boils down to I assume, just what weighs more.
A lot of European countries allow only very limited non compete clauses or none at all. Moving in that direction is not really without precedent, so there’s your legal argument.
Also obligatory IANAL, if you think I’m wrong and you got sources, please correct me. I wanna learn what I don’t know.
I think we are talking about two different things. I was mainly asking for legal reason for the judge’s injunction, looks like it is not a ruling but a stall tho.
She will rule later. That’s what I was getting, what is the reason to disagree for the judge here.
I think you described how employment law works correctly though. non compete clause is hard to enforce in many places and for most jobs maybe save of some super red states.
But I also don’t think that is their primary goal either, I would posit the goal is to “send a message” or “chill employees will to shop for work”
Ha ha, I came to see who you were replying to but I can’t because I already blocked them. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
(Odds are good I didn’t find their style or content particularly edificatious)
Lmao the irony “I didn’t find their style or content particularly edificatious.” My partener in christ you are the unedificatious one!
No kidding. Even regular staunch capitalists recognize that regulation is sometimes necessary. Regulation against anti-competitive practices exists because a market left to its own devices will devolve into monopolies that will be much less efficient than a competitive market. Non-competes are just employers establishing monopolies over their workforce.
a market left to its own devices will devolve into monopolies
I would posit it devolves into either slavery or serfdom based on historical records. We all started “in free market” lol
Even regular staunch capitalists recognize that regulation is sometimes necessary.
Most people can’t the differentiate between capitalism and free market on conceptual level