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I thought we already knew that he was selling pardons.

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Yes, but now he could do it legally (well full immunity making legality mute moot).

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Hey, just FYI, the term is actually “moot”.

Not trying to be rude, I just I know I prefer to be told about stuff like this ❤️

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I thought it was “moo.”

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Ah good catch, not sure if I mistyped or mobile auto-correct got me. I think I even looked the word up to make sure I was spelling it correct (I always want to add an “e” on the end). And no rudeness taken on this side, I appreciate it. Thanks! =)

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Yes but now he can be even more explicit about it, put it right in official communications.

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Now fortified with immunity! A part of a complete breakfast autocracy.

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And wasn’t it basically already legal? I don’t think there’s a lot of regulation around it (at least as codified in law, I know in the last few decades presidents deferred to a vetting process through DOJ, but none of that is mandatory).

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The president’s power to pardon federal crimes is not really limited in the constitution except to exclude cases of impeachment. That is generally accepted to mean that the power of the pardon is otherwise nearly unlimited except perhaps that one cannot pardon oneself. There is no specific rule or law against giving a pardon in exchange for payment, though it is clearly considered by most as unethical.

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There is no specific rule or law against giving a pardon in exchange for payment

Yes there is: 18 USC § 201 (b) (2).

Granting the pardon isn’t the part that’s illegal; soliciting or receiving the payment in exchange is. The ruling doesn’t change that, but could make the prosecution of that act more difficult in certain edge cases.

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wouldn’t they be called “indulgences”?

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Good question. Someone could write a thesis or two about it.

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And nail it to the doors of the Capitol

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No, Trump needs to brand everything. There’s be Trumpulgences, or Trumpdons.

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Oh, just one more pardon. Treat yourself!

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Price: your help in overthrowing the American government for me.

Line forms on the right.

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He has stated that he wants to pardon everyone for Jan 6th, and will likely pardon anyone willing to be his militia against the Left/immigrants. The Supreme Court has thrown gas on how fast they are going to be able to go through the whole Project 2025 playbook.

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And all the people saying “but the lower courts get to decide if it’s an official act” are ignoring the fact that the courts are so slow it won’t even matter, all the damage will be long done

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If it makes you feel any better, with the age of these two candidates and the speed of the courts it’s likely that it didn’t actually matter before the ruling. They’re not exactly consequences if they happen after you’ve died peacefully of old age.

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And they’re also ignoring that every single one of the courts to which the Supreme Court are referring are subordinate to the Supreme Court and may be overruled by the Supreme Court at any point after a case enters the federal court system.

I’m baffled at how people can completely miss such an obvious progression.

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And Mr. Kiriakou was separately told that Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani could help him secure a pardon for $2 million. Mr. Kiriakou rejected the offer, but an associate, fearing that Mr. Giuliani was illegally selling pardons, alerted the F.B.I. Mr. Giuliani challenged this characterization.

2021

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wont someone rid us of this orange turd

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