110 points

The most appropriate comparison is not the USSR.

The most appropriate comparison is Germany in 1932, when the Nazi Party finally gained control of the German parlaiment, culminating in Hitler’s appointment as Reichchancellor on 30 January the following year.

The fact that the article ignores the obvious and most pertinent historical parallel kind of ruins any rhetorical points it’s trying to make for me.

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61 points

And the leader who preceded Hitler, and whose blunders helped Hitler gain power, was Paul von Hindenburg.

Von Hindenburg, running for his second term at 84, was widely regarded as being too old and incompetent. For the centrists and center-left parties, he was their only hope in defeating Hitler.

After Von Hindenburg’s defeat, Hitler passed the Enabling Act to assume full power.

History may not repeat, but it rhymes.

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4 points

Not quite right, Von Hindenburg was president while Hitler became chancelor. It was generally thought the politically very experienced Von Hindenburg would be able to control the newcomer Hitler. It was the other way around.

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9 points

Stfu that’s crazy

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-62 points

You mean Joe Biden who is supporting Genocide in a concentration camp should be compared to Hitler?

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40 points

Oh fuck off dude. I detest his support for the Israeli government, but you and I both know Trump would be ordering B-52s to carpet bomb Gaza, and then would strike a deal with Bibi to build a new beachfront Trump Tower.

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-43 points

If only you cared as much about Biden killing Palestinians as you do for Trump.

But if you accept what Biden does I doubt you’ll have a problem with what you believe Trump would do.

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1 point

Yes.

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77 points

Well what can you do? We can’t unite because of the extreme polarization. Plus one polarized half thinks if we just cut all taxes somehow shit would get paid for. How do you come to concessions with that? Think Tanks decided to fuck with people’s heads to keep the wealthy rich and after nearly 100 years of brainwashing we are no longer fucken coherent. We’re fucked, because we can’t even agree who is accountable for this shit or what we need to do to fix it. This was always the end goal of the Heritage Foundation.

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38 points

Yeah, no, I’m literally making escape plans. Just this week the street between our house and our kid’s daycare got shut down in the middle of the day for an unannounced parade, and my wife had a fucking panic attack thinking it might be some sort of Proud Boys or Oathkeepers-type march and they were gonna run amok and we’d be cut off from him. I don’t plan to stick around long enough to see that happen for real when Project 2025 kicks off, thank you.

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14 points

Where are you planning to go? I’m inclined to want to leave, but I have no idea where to go.

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The “easiest” would be Israel since my wife qualifies under the Law of Return, but we’re both staunchly anti-Zionist, so… ugh. Right now I’m looking closest at Ireland, since my profession is on the Critical Skills Employment Permit list and I work in a niche that is well-matched to the Irish pharma/life sciences sector. In a pinch I’d lobby for a transfer to my company’s Canadian branch office, but that’s not optimal for a few reasons.

ETA: for permanent emigration, the thing you want to do is find a country where you can speak or at least quickly learn the language, and where you can get employment in a sector that’s on their list of critical needs. In most cases you can’t get a visa that lets you stay and work long-term without first getting a job offer. In terms of flexibility, someplace in the EU has a lot of appeal, since you can work basically anywhere in the Schengen area after you gain permanent residency. Australia and New Zealand are attractive mainly for being well-isolated from all the regional wars that seem like they’re waiting to kick off just as soon as American muscle isn’t backing up NATO or Taiwan, but it’s a lot harder to get those visas.

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5 points

Canada’s not far behind the US in terms of stupid, especially if Bitcoin Milhouse wins the next election, as he is widely expected to. Our house prices are even more fucked than yours too, so if you come here, bring caaaaaash.

Might as well look elsewhere so you don’t have to repeat the exercise in a decade when it goes to shit here too.

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4 points

Yeah I second EU for right of travel and work as OP mentioned. Also countries like France have artist and business owners visas like US’ H-1B visas. Application for residency process is relatively painless compared to US/UK/CAN. Sponsorship by a company from your country that does business in the EU is also a very popular way to get in.

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4 points

Come to California. We’ll fight.

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…but seriously, I’ve been learning French for almost four years now (a) in order to widen my options beyond the Anglosphere in general, and (b) because a whole bunch of tropical islands are part of France (including Tahiti) and I’d like to get a liveaboard sailboat and visit some of them.

I figure having a specific destination planned becomes less important if you’re taking your home with you. It’s really being able to get out before the shit hits the fan that’s the issue, and not having to worry about finding a job willing to sponsor a work visa in order to settle in a particular place seems like it would make that easier.

Worst-case scenario, if the boat’s cheap enough your living expenses can be low enough to support yourself bouncing around from port to port working odd jobs.

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6 points

Exactly. Just actually do it. Remember the people who escaped Germany left before the election. Those who left after had a much harder time.

It is much easier to move without stuff whether that means selling or storing your collection of mostly junk. I took a leisurely route and brought about 40 suitcases total to the other side of the world in a few trips. The rest of the crap I bought over the years is rotting in a cheap storage unit. Your ancestors somewhere down the line immigrated with just the bags they could carry in one trip or nothing.

Depending on your financial situation and if you have at least one family member with a secondary passport there are options. Just don’t poison them by “moving” as a tourist, trying to work, and then getting deported. Immigration is difficult, even for Americans. But it is possible.

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7 points

My wife is a 3rd generation Irish immigrant, meaning she can apply for dual citizenship and I can get Irish citizenship as a “needed specialist.”

It’s not the easiest escape plan, especially since it would mean abandoning her aging father, but at least we can get out of here if/when the Brown Shirts come for us.

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3 points

Wait 3rd gen can get dual citizenship in ireland?? I thought it was only up to 2nd gen

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4 points

I might have put my generations wrong, her grandfather was born in Ireland, so I think you’re right in that she’s actually a second generation immigrant.

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4 points

We’re looking in the same direction, since I qualify under the same program. I’m looking at companies to start communicating with about job opportunities now.

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1 point

Fuck that I’m gluing my VR headset to my face and ignoring the next 4.5 years. We are so fucked.

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15 points

I feel a little weird agreeing with the headline while scrolling endlessly on reddit and lemmy

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