Abigail Disney, the granddaughter to Roy O. Disney, who cofounded The Walt Disney Company, told CNBC on Thursday that she plans to withhold donations to the party she has funded for years until Biden drops out. The president has said he has no plans to withdraw from the race, despite calls for him to do so.

“I intend to stop any contributions to the party unless and until they replace Biden at the top of the ticket. This is realism, not disrespect. Biden is a good man and has served his country admirably, but the stakes are far too high,” Abigail Disney said in a lengthy statement to CNBC. “If Biden does not step down the Democrats will lose. Of that I am absolutely certain. The consequences for the loss will be genuinely dire.”

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Biden dropping out right now would all but guarantee that Trump won the Presidency. Anyone calling for him to drop out knows this, and is doing it likely as someone who is horribly misguided, or intentionally to try and sway our elections by a foreign entity.

We’re past the point of registrations across multiple states, the supreme court is controlled by the right, and there is absolutely no way to swap those names out and get the new names on the ballot without pushing it all up the ladder to – you guessed it – An illegitimate supreme court who has shown us they’ll make shit up on the spot to get the result that their owners want.

So people calling for Biden to ‘step down’ - are either doing it because they’re too stupid to realize the reality of things, or they are a foreign agent attempting to sow division and limit voters on the left. Follow those social chains up to who they originate from – I guarantee they originate from people who are intentionally there to sow division in an attempt to sway our elections.

Here’s a list of the dated deadlines to be placed on the ballot in various states: https://ballotpedia.org/Deadline_to_run_for_president,_2024

So understand first and foremost, anyone saying Biden needs to have someone replace him right now – They know this.

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Sincere question did you watch the debate in its entirety?

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I saw Trump lying his ass off and Biden flabbergasted at the sheer audacity of some of those lies.

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You didn’t watch it.

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and is doing it likely as someone who is horribly misguided

This is Abigail Disney. She’s rich but she’s not the brightest crayon in the box politically. Her PhD is in philosophy and her dissertation was about the role of romanticized violence and war in American life. Her lists of philanthropy is what one would expect from a run of the mill rich person level activism. Tossing money at the high level stuff, never diving deeper to the root of the problem.

I’m not dissing the lady, but she absolutely falls into the misguided on this aspect.

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All of this is wrong, according to the DNC’s own rules and history of being able to handle such situations, and common sense.

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according to the DNC’s own rules

Oh those matter now? They didn’t matter when they were arguing in court that they could choose their nominee in a smoke filled back room.

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We’re past the point of registrations across multiple states

LOL, no we’re not. Biden hasn’t even been nominated yet. The earliest deadline is Ohio, which is requiring the Democratic party to do a special virtual vote to get on, but that’s still in the future.

Your link is a list of filing deadlines for the primary.

So maybe after being wrong and accusing everyone else of being foreign agents, check your own information sources that are trying to convince you of this.

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and is doing it likely as someone who is horribly misguided, or intentionally to try and sway our elections by a foreign entity

And once again we come back to the liberal conspiracy theory of “We’re the only adults in the room, and anyone who disagrees with us is co-opted by foreign powers”. The worst part of it all is the shamelessness of pulling this bullshit when so much people knows you’re talking out of your ass. Fuck off.

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So you’re a horribly misguided rube of someone else. Got it.

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I mean I wouldn’t call all people who want Biden to drop out as intentionally being for Trump. Alot of it is fear, panic, and maybe a bit of ignorance of historical trends. By alot of historical metrics, it does increase the chance for Trump winning, I’ll admit that. But I wouldn’t say that it’s guaranteed.

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What would happen if Biden died next week? Would all those processes you mention prevent his name from being changed ?

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Yeah. They actually would.

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It’s sow, as in sowing seeds, not sew, as in joining together with thread.

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Thx for the correction.

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You just have got to love progressives ability to be their own quest enemy.

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“Oligarchy bad, until they agree with me”

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Not sure what article you’re reading, but this one didn’t seem to imply the reason for ceasing donations was being against oligarchy. So I’m not sure what point you’re making?

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So I’m not sure what point you’re making?

That the influence of the ultra-wealthy on elections is derided by some until an ultra-wealthy donor is found who agrees with them.

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Isn’t the push behind Biden “making the best of a bad system”? Which seems to be exactly the same sentiment behind “I don’t like the oligarchs but it’s useful that they agree with me.”

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He’s making a strawman

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And just like that, you found an oligarch you don’t like.

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If you haven’t seen Abigail Disney’s documentary about Disney, you really need to…

The American Dream and Other Fairy Tales - Official Trailer - https://youtu.be/9XnX5LNjeAg

Abigail Disney looks at America’s dysfunctional and unequal economy and asks why the American Dream has worked for the wealthy, yet is a nightmare for people born with less. Using her family’s story, Disney explores how this systemic injustice took hold and imagines a way toward a more equitable future.

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Don’t they pay their park employees shit? Maybe she should “explore” that as part of this great philanthropic work.

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Criticizing Disney’s pay and worker rights is literally Abigail Disney’s claim to fame.

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The Disney family no longer owns or controls Disney Megacorp, AFAIK. It’s an independent company run in the usual way now.

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Maybe lower the prices at her theme parks, then?

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The last Disney to actually be in charge of the company was her father.

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I don’t think she’s the Disney in charge.

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She doesn’t have any role in running the parks. I don’t think anyone in the Disney family does anymore. They’re just a megacorp. Abigail Disney criticizes the Disney Corp all the time. Mostly about worker conditions, pay, and obscene CEO pay rather than ticket prices.

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And this is the reason why the democratic party does not respond to the interests of the working class. The words of a super rich person have more influence than thousands or millions of people saying the same thing in surveys. This time those voices are aligned, but if next time they are not, the voice of the super rich will be the one they hear instead of yours.

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With all these calls for him to drop out, there would need to be a viable replacement that could ensure a win with a four month campaign. I’m concerned that it’s just as risky to change the horse this close to the race.

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It’s not a bad idea. His “scandal” won’t mean shit next to Trump’s. I’d still like to see some polls of his potential before we start calling for Biden to step down.

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At least it would be funny, in a good way.

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I don’t think there is.

I think a person who should be in the running for president needs to have some name-recognition but also be non-polarizing which unfortunately is hard to find in combination. There are some names floating around like moving the candidacy to Kamala Harris, but… I feel like a lot of people don’t like her. Which shouldn’t matter but I think a lot of people base their voting on “would I enjoy sitting down at a dinner table with this person and could I speak candidly” and don’t look into the actual political standpoints of that person, so likeability more than anything.

I’m not American, but I still feel a slightly vested interest in the outcomes of the elections because the outcome of the US election will shape global politics and even more than that in the next coming years, especially if Trump and his fascist cronies take control. But my point being is that I don’t know every single name in American politics, but I would say your average American voter probably knows as much as me, and the names that people know about are usually the polarizing ones that wouldn’t have a chance of winning. The Democrats are sorely lacking a strong candidate with a name that can rival Joe Biden in name-recognition without being polarizing.

Joe Biden is too old, but he has good people around him so I could see him doing 4 more years while doing MORE to find a good replacement for him would be the best thing for the US.

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Polarizing is not a problem. Trump is polarizing.

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There have been several polls of Kamala vs. Trump. She barely surpasses Biden in some when the poll brings “fitness” into question, and polls worse than Biden in experience. That’s the real problem.

You right. I think it’s reactionary nonsense to be calling for him to pull out of the race without a stronger candidate on the bench.

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There is no dropping out, and there’s no replacement. All political donations have been to the Biden campaign, it is illegal to transfer those funds to a new candidate. The only person who could run for president in his place is Kamala, since she is the other person on the ticket.

It’s extremely clear no one talking has any clue how any of this shit works.

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the working class cannot afford democracy

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How many votes those Plutos got?

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Lmao, you say that as if the DNC have listened to their demands.

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The hell are you on? I’m just saying that rich people making absurd demands is a really shit citation for politicians listening to rich people’s demands. You haven’t caught Biden or the DNC red handed, you’ve got a picture of the cookie jar devoid of hands and still full of cookies.

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The words of a super rich person have more influence than thousands or millions of people saying the same thing in surveys.

Has there ever been a time, place, or political system where this was not always the case?

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Waiting for the communists to jump in confidently incorrect.

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Yet another liberal straw man.

Let me guess, what comes after a liberal gets scratched again?

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Political parties that pay more attention to their voters than to the rich? Yes, many. Parties that fulfill that and are electorally successful? None or almost

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They don’t hear you now. Just because you’re asking for the same thing doesn’t mean your opinion matters.

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