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US History (College and any sane public school) actually does do a good job of describing all the crazy stuff the country has pulled against people.

It just conveniently skips explaining anything global in the past 40-50 years that has a direct effect on lots of things happening today.

Stuff like SEATO, Israel, how OPEC was neutralized, Iraq, Iran, KSA, Israel again, Afghanistan, 9/11, etc.

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“We won WWII, absolutely nothing happened for 25 years, we landed on the moon, and now we’re all caught up!”

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Even if you look past the cruelties committed, it’s still disappointing.

I’ve read a variety of books on various wars and those that we were involved in were mostly disappointing in regards to tactical decisions. Everything after the revolution either feels like a fluke or just simply feels as if we brute forced our way through with resources until the post WWII era where various campaigns failed due to guerilla warfare. I’m oversimplifying but especially early on in its life the country’s militia was a bit unimpressive.

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You mean in height school billy? Every college level course gives it pretty raw that I’ve had anyway…If you dare read between the lines, nobody is going to get that amount of land without a lot of blood and tears.

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Are you telling me we didn’t get our land by making friends, providing a great handshake and striking a good deal for everyone?

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Well kind of… you know…new world diseases with a little raping, pillaging and slavery on the side. Technically the Native Americans did the same thing to other tribes when pulling for better hunting grounds just not on the massive scale. Jussstt kidding, we brought Taco Bell, KFC, and Walmart…then they realized how superior we were and just gave us the land followed by suicide. 😽

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Graduated high school with the belief that the US was a perfect, infallible nation.

Got to college. Couldn’t get any classes. Wondered pardon the fuck out me wandered into a history class in attempt to get a class, any class.

Was blown away. Ended up getting a history degree and becoming considerably more cynical and jaded about the whole thing.

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*** Wandered professor. You got to college and weren’t able to register for any classes?

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It was 1990. Everything you did was on paper. I had to mail in my desired class schedule and got zero classes so I had to wander (pardon the fuck out of my early morning typo) around with a bunch of paper add slips trying to get classes.

So very much not in a fucking mood for pedants right now.

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Paper add slips?

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Actually History isn’t always written by the victors. After WW2 a load of german officers fled to south America and began writing books about how great they were and could have won if only they had finished developing all their wonder weapons in time. This is the origin of a lot of persistent and false memes about how advanced and brilliant the nazis supposedly were. It’s history written by losers.

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The Lost Cause myth is the same thing

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Interestingly, the CIA also rescued thousands of high-profile Nazis and brought them to the USA, where they were given positions of power and authority (Operation Paperclip, Operation Bloodstone), and began teaching people that changing anything is impossible and we need to fight communism because it is evil and authoritarian and goes against human nature and always fails (not because it’s the most effective way to destroy Nazism).

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Clean Wehrmacht mythos was critical to get West Germany fully into NATO by 1955.

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You talk about memes. I don’t know them. I think all states, including Germany, teach the story of the Victors in school

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Actually History isn’t always written by the victors… This is the origin of a lot of persistent and false memes…

You may remember history but your reading comprehension needs a little work

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What does writing history mean to you? Making memes no one knows about, isn’t. Making memes that enter public consciousness (as the word combination “a lot of persistent” seems to suggest or at least leave open) maybe. But what do I know, I lack basic reading skills apparently.

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