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Summation of conversations I’ve had with a doctor about the healthcare system.

Doctor: “The system needs fixing.”

Me: “Agreed, we need to socialize the healthcare system.”

Doctor:“Not like that, I still wanna be rich!”

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6 points

How many times have you had that conversation?

Methinks zero.

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I have had something like it with my doctors. Talking about how bad the healthcare system is and not seeing a single payer as a good option without providing any other good option. My doctors are conservatives though that think lowering taxes is going to help them. They don’t seem to get in the current system they pay the highest taxes because they don’t increase them for anyone doing better for them (bussiness owners of a certain size or larger)

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You never had such a conversation, no doctor ever said anything like that to you, and I’m fairly certain that all happened in your head during a shower.

Why do people make up such unbelievably bad stories to tell on social media? Like if you’re 16 or 17 I get it but you’re not are you? You’re an adult. Making up stories for brownie points from strangers.

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Every medical professional I’ve ever talked to has the opposite opinion.

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0 points

You think the doctor has some say in how much medical care costs? This has nothing to do with the doctors. This entirely about the health insurance companies.

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8 points

The system is working. It’s designed to enrich the wealthy and extract that wealth from the poor.

The entire medical industrial complex is not going to give up their wealth willingly.

Plus most doctors are born into money already. They don’t ever associate with ordinary people in the lower 80% of households.

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8 points

I work for rich people once in a while and they don’t understand why I can’t wait 1 month to get paid. There is a total disconnect, they can’t even imagine how I live, and I’m not the poorest of the poor anymore.

I work construction, and I have to be super mindful of injury, because that’d basically be it for me.

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6 points

“I don’t get it MiddleWeigh, don’t you have some art you could auction? Surely your money manager has some stock you can loan off in the mean time?”

Good ol arrested development “It’s one banana Michael, what could it cost $10?”

:P

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nah, it more like ‘just ask your parents for the money from your inheritance/trust early’

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A lot of folks who otherwise would have become doctors have pursued other careers because the money just isn’t there anymore.

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8 points

My wife is deaf. She gets given batteries for her free hearing aid plus an assessment from the audiology department once a year.

My daughter was born 5 weeks premature. She was in the ante natal care unit for three weeks.

My daughter also had open heart surgery when she was 9 years old. Full medical team at a world-famous teaching hospital, 2 days in the paediatric cardiology intensive care (nurse to patient ratio 1:1, 24/7) and 2 days in the post-op ward (ratio 2:1).

None of this has ever cost us anything.

America needs to fix its health “service”. While you’re at it, fix your gun laws too (children practising hiding from gunmen in schools? Really??). And your legal system. And women’s rights. And police corruption. Once you get those sorted, the rest of the civilised world has a long list of other suggestions.

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fix your gun laws too (children practising hiding from gunmen in schools? Really??). And your legal system. And women’s rights. And police corruption.

I’d say they are all symptoms of the same problem, economic insecurity and misaligned incentives. People like to blame communism and praise capitalism for the results of the cold war, but I see the US making the same mistake that lost the USSR the cold war, but inflexibility and misaligned incentives. The US in the 20th century went from almost unregulated capitalism to a regulated market economy. IMO, it was that ability to change that brought the US ahead, not some magic of capitalism or brokenness of communism. Now we are stubbornly stuck on the ideology that could very well could have led to the collapse of the US in the 1930s.

Take the freight rail strike fiasco and recent train wrecks. Capitalism creates an incentive for the companies to reduce costs as much as possible. The rail unions are practically useless due to a terrible federal law. What we need is a more pragmatic government and population that will allow them to be and pass legislation that deals with it. One reasonable approach is to deregulate the unions a bit to ensure a quality workforce. Another is regulations that micromanage operations. Maybe fine companies in key industries for both preventable environmental disasters and failure operate under the threat of forced liquidation if they can’t get their act together. Another is professionalizing rail workers so no worker will risk personal liability or loss of licensure for cutting corners. Something else?

At the scales we are talking about, there is so much complexity that it is almost impossible to predict the outcome of a policy, so I am a big advocate for flexibility.

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Or… We could eliminate conservatives (including neo-liberals) from positions of power. That would also solve these “complex issues”.

Politicians sucking corporate teats and taking legal bribes are the problem, and no one does that better than conservatives.

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8 points

It’s working just as intended for the people at the top and their supporters. There would only be a problem if this wasn’t the case. The disparity in wealth must grow, not shrink.

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7 points

American insurance is such a scam, how can they even call it insurance if it costs more then it’s realistically worth

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People will argue against universal healthcare because they don’t want to pay into a pool of money that gets distributed among people who use the healthcare services, and they don’t like the idea of paying for someone else’s care.

So instead they support a system where everyone pays into health insurance, which by definition is folks paying into a pool of money that gets distributed among the people who use the services the insurance provider provides. They’re still paying for other people’s healthcare, but for some reason they don’t see that. It’s the same as paying car insurance if you’re never in an accident.

And this latter system allows insurance companies to simply not provide coverage for certain care, meaning that you pay into a shared pool of money that no one can use to get that care provided.

Even if you’re wealthy; and you can afford the best insurance, how is this better? You might think you’ll have shorter hospital times, but the hospitals are still running on thinner margins for profits, so its not like the Doctors are waiting around for you to show up. If there’s less patients, they hire less staff.

You’re still constantly running the risk of having some healthcare problem that isn’t covered, just by the nature of letting the provider stipulate what they do or don’t cover.

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