Is it normal to be disgruntled after a layoff?

I got laid off my IT role for a biggish MSP firm, they just called some people to say they had difficult measures to take, I was one of those people…

So a month and so later, I’m still searching and I just feel bitter and jaded, I’m not getting calls back.

Is it perfectly normal for me to feel this way about companies? I’m still confident I can try to get back into it from this setback but I just feel these firms no matter what industry they are, are utterly void of any camaderie.

Am I going insane?

(TLDR - Bitter Bri’ish guy who’s just asking if being infuriated with this isn’t like a mental disease)

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Totally sane. Most layoffs are an effort to boost stock prices because some executives made a dumb fucking decision.

Being laid off is absolutely not a comment on your worth as an employee or a human being. You should give companies as much of your blood sweat and tears as they’d give you - none. With some extremely rare exceptions being an employee is just a transaction.

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Most layoffs are an effort to boost stock prices because some executives made a dumb fucking decision.

…what? You want to elaborate on that a bit?

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Executives need to present company forecasts to shareholders at annual business meetings. If they mess up the forecast so the business plan doesn’t match the reality, they scramble to make the books balance somehow — the easiest place to do this is by cutting staff so that expenditures line up with earnings. Modern accounting means that even though they still have payouts to employees, they can count this in a separate loss bucket so that the bottom line item that investors watch still comes out where they “predicted” it would, which props up the stock price, making investors happy and preventing them from replacing the executives.

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That is one part - the other half is just simply that the market expects a response to any perceived failure. If a publicly traded company has a bad quarter the market wants to see some corrective action and it wants it now (long term plans don’t mesh with the constant news cycle of the market). Layoffs are a way to lower your expenses and cause a sudden shift in profit numbers… even though they nearly always result in long term damage to the company.

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Mate I’d be worried if you were anything but disgruntled. Companies are shit, layoffs are shit, feeling like shit after being through shit is pretty normal.

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are utterly void of any camaderie

Contrary to what all these companies claim in their internal propaganda, they are not your friends, they are not your family, and you are not even a person to them - you are just a human resource. Your work shouldn’t be your life or your way to “fulfill yourself” or “grow” (whatever the fuck that means). It is a way to obtain money so you can live your actual life. Never feel like you owe anything to a company.

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However, the individual friendships you made at the workplace are often real. Stay in touch with people you know, and help each other out.

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Yes, I agree.

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This. I’ve been laid off at the beginning of the month as well. Three of the four interview leads I have right now are through references from old colleagues I’ve enjoyed working with and never completely lost contact. Not necessarily friends, but people you know are pleasant coworkers or have good judgement is more than enough.

All other companies I’ve applied to have either completely ghosted or rejected me pretty damn quickly despite being rather senior. This market is the worst we’ve seen in this field in a long while…

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Yup. At one point, I was loyal to a fault. Always in early, staying late, helping out when no one else would. Turns out none of that is as important as sales, so they taught the salesmen my job, and let me go a month before Christmas.

Haven’t put up with bullshit or given any extra since.

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Yes it’s normal. I got laid off some time ago, and even though I was able to find a better job fairly quickly, I feel like I lost my mojo.

I always knew that a job was a relationship of convenience, but I figured being good at my job, relatively cheap, and well liked, would protect me from this sort of action.

It’s demoralising to realise just how shallow the relationship is.

Anyway good luck on your job search.

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We’re up to 5 layoffs in the last decade in between my wife and I. I’m obviously extremely biased towards “job security” being a freaking joke lol

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It is normal but you may want to keep it in check. It can easily spiral down into depression and you won’t notice.

Source: personal experience, 1yr+ unemployed, now seeing a therapist

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