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Open-source intelligence analysts reported that Crooks didn’t appear to use mainstream social media channels such as Facebook or Instagram and had an almost negligible internet footprint, which is highly unusual for a 20-year-old. Instead, analysts said that Crooks corresponded with friends and associates on a Discord server that they were now trying to access.

Discord servers are restricted ring-fenced sections of the internet. They are often used by gaming groups and communities as secure chat rooms but are also used by fringe organisations to push their ideologies and discuss wild conspiracy theories and plots.

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The FBI says it has not yet identified a motive for the shooting

I suggest checking the last ~6-12 months of his 4chan history. Key word searches to try: “Trump Zionist” “Kushner” “Fuentes”

I suppose on the positive side, probably some of the clammiest, palest groypers in existence will be getting some door knocks in coming weeks and months.

On the extremely negative side, if the guy is 100% confirmed a groyper and his motive is anything in the realm of “Trump supports Israel” or whatever… ain’t gonna be good for future anti-Zionist movements.

Not that the future was ever bright considering how they’ve reacted to peaceful sit-ins. But yeah, anything groyper related and against Israel (for explicitly antisemitic reasons) will be lumped with anti-imperialism/anti-genocide related resistance to Israel. Very convenient packaging to barrel right past the unavoidable truth of the peaceful nature thus far of anti-Zionist moments. Yes it’s totally nonsensical, but if it aids Zionist narratives that both parties share, it’s too tempting.

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I guess I’m out of the loop on this. It makes sense upon reading it however. So the theory is, based on your analysis, that because he was off mainstream social media, and associated with gun culture that he was likely on the neo-nazi pipeline.

This pipeline involving an antisemitic anti-zionist framework, that believes support for Israel is support for white genocide in effect. Is this a widely held view among groypers?

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To the last part, yes, basically. They hate Israel because (this is me summing up a lot of disconnected “ideologies” from them):

-Israel is Jewish. -They hate Jews. -Zionist=Judaism.

Some of them, although all this stuff is very disjointed, believe that Trump is like a “Jewish puppet” (they will sometimes substitute Zionist with the intention of meaning Jewish. They do not distinguish a difference. All Jews are Zionists loyal to Israel to them. Classic antisemitic stuff). His son in law, Jared Kushner, was in charge of a lot of foreign policy stuff in the Middle East including the treaty that was meant to full solidify the alliance and support from the surrounding Arab countries like Saudi Arabia with Israel. This was interrupted by partly 1) Trump losing re-election but mostly 2) recent Palestinian resistance starting on Oct 7 last year. The groypers see this as Kushner, who is Jewish, manipulating Trump or Trump working in cooperation with “the Jews”, however they want to frame it, to sell out America to the “the Jews” and “the Arabs.” They see America as a place that should be only white people, which apparently now includes Hispanic whites and not just anglo/germanic whites (crazy developments are emerging in Nazi ideology), and has no Jews, they belong in Israel, which the US should have no role in supporting (or killing the Jews outright, again, depending on the relative insanity), no black people, brown skinned Hispanic, Latino, no indigenous, no Asians… you get get gist. Typical Nazi stuff.

But yeah the hangup with them specifically is Trump/US support of Israel and their deep racist hatred of Jews. It’s basically like if the racist republicans were fully ideologically consistent in their racism… you get a groyper who wants absolutely nothing to do with Jews or anything even associated with Judaism.

Some of them do hesitantly, lightly support Trump btw. I believe Fuentes has been on record as supporting Trump as sort of a means to an end transitional figure. He said something like “we elect Trump twice and then we have no more elections” like he will form an actual empire, dissolve the republic, Rome style, and then the next person will be a “based anti-Jewish groyper.” Or whatever.

Now I must go shower.

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So groypers think of Trump like we think of Bernie. Except Trump won.

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Apparently the shooter said the following in his twitter bio before it got scrubbed: “on a mission from God (cross emoji) to end Epstien’s evil empire”

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Where did you see that?

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I saw this in a discord that I am currently in and I am currently asking for a screenshot to see if I can share it here. People are working hard to scrub data from this shooter.

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37 points

so he did have an internet presence…?

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30 points

Very little and all of it is been currently scrubbed clean.

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If you’re telling the truth then I called it last night when I said the shooter was a disillusioned QAnon-Head mad at Trump. I mean it’s easy to guess because they’re the only ones who are armed and do adventurism.

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Something similar was my first though when I read the news this morning. QAnon has fractured in some bizarre and spectacular ways since Jan 6th especially and there’s any number of reasons some of those rabbit-holed spin-offs don’t like Trump now

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lmao a lot of us joked about it it, I didn’t think that’d actually be the case

Reality itself is unserious, it seems

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I was seeing a ton of fake stuff posted trying to frame him as like antifa and such last night, so I will stand by waiting for more on that type of stuff before really forming opinions on it.

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I was seeing a ton of fake stuff posted trying to frame him as like antifa and such last night

Same here and that made me very uneasy due to the readiness for violence that people with neonazi views have.

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It’s unclear right now if that’s a real account, from what I saw.

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pretty clearly faked, check the Epstein reddit, top comments sleuthed out the fact it has 0 posts, photoshopped the shooter’s face onto a different pic, etc

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Could you share the post here? I checked this https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/new/ sub and it has nothing within these two days.

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Any evidence of this? Very interesting

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I saw this in a discord that I am currently in and I am waiting for a screenshot to see if we can analyze it here.

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He was a G*mer.

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44 points

Maybe he was trying to restore the Habsburg throne

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78 points

Rabidly pro-Ukraine?

Wanted to kickstart helterskelter?

Trump was too left for his tastes?

Trump was too right for this Romneyite?

Gamer just wanted to get a Wikipedia page?

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50 points

Trump was too right for this Romneyite?

The militant Mormon uprising has begun. Salt Lake City will stand for 1000 years.

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30 points

HAIL THE WHITE PHAROAH

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19 points

I thiunk he was a few inches too left.

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26 points

Gamer just wanted to get a Wikipedia page?

almost certainly this one, you miss 100% of the shots you…do take apparently

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On one side I am totally unsurprised, but on the other side I was hoping this was going to be the worlds first instance of a lib with a spine. I don’t know why I got my hopes up

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61 points

There can only be one liberal driller

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the liberal driller wouldn’t have missed

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The Liberal Driller let’s trouble come to him

Then he makes sure it troubles no one ever again

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