Yes, you can use Signal without sharing your personal phone number. Here’s how I did it.
Wouldn’t just using a temporary phone number service work? From what I remember, you just need to recieve a text message and put it into Signal during registration. From skimming through the post, there’s no mention of this option.
Why not just pay for a sim card in cash? Even if your phone number gets exposed it shouldn’t be tied to your identity
Privacy ≠ Anonymity
Signal = Privacy
Signal ≠ Anonymity
Signal was made for privacy, not Anonymity.
If you need anonymity, don’t use signal. It was never designed for this. There are tools specially made for anonymity. Look at simplex.
I think anonymity is heavily coupled with privacy, if someone knows my account is linked to my phone number, that’s a very strong form of fingerprinting. Even if E2E encryption is perfect, it takes one bad actor on the the reciever end of my message to both identify who I am through my phone number and leak my message. If just my message is leaked and there’s no fingerprint leading to me, I am still safe. Real example: It took Proton leaking the IP address of a climate activist to the state to get them arrested, not a hole in their E2E mail encryption. A phone number is potentially an even stronger identifier.
If I asked 10 people to give me their home address, they’re not going to care whether someone defines that as privacy or anonymity. But signal’s reliance on phone number’s (which are easily linked to your identity and home address in most countries) as the primary identifier means giving away just that.
Why do people feel the need to split hairs with these terms?
Why do people feel the need to split hairs with these terms?
He’s not splitting hairs. It’s just a different value proposition. I don’t like the phone number requirement either but it makes sense to your average normie who realizes SMS is exposed plaintext. Something like an anonymous seed phrase as the key to your account would confuse most people. Email would be an improvement but it’s at best pseudonymous.
How I Got a Truly Anonymous XMPP Account:
- Open my client (e.g. Conversations, Monal, Dino)
- Pick a random server, username and password
- Click register
Sorry, it’s a cheap joke, but it still baffles me that Signal requires a phone number, so I felt I had to post it :)
Of course, this is not XMPP-specific either, just my protocol of choice, there are many other open alternatives that also offer such functionality.
and then you can anonymously chat with yourself because no one else will bother installing that favorite app of yours!
I’ve been trying to get people off WhatsApp for who knows how many years now. With Signal, i have a chance of convincing people. When you start talking about matrix or session or SimpleX or ???, people stay on WhatsApp
Different strokes for different folks! I’ve been fortunate enough that many of my family and friends have been happy enough to follow me.
But I don’t disagree with you, Signal has a much more recognisable brand and better user experience. These are things that we need to improve if we’re going to get anywhere near the level of adoption Signal has.
It’s there for a reason. You can’t easily create a spam waves if you need a phone number to create an account. And they added usernames now, so you don’t need to share your phone number with people you want to talk to. It’s just there to create an account and can be hidden after that.
There is Session, that uses UUIDs for names with no phone number requirement, which is basically a fork of Signal with decentralized Loki on top of it.
Isn’t spoofing a phone number easy for scammers? If so, I don’t understand why there is (admittedly) so little spam on Signal.
Does Signal require 2FA upon registration? (I cannot recall)
Spoofing just changes the displayed called/sender ID, not the actual number. They would still need real numbers for each account. And they block a lot of VoIP numbers, like most services these days. And getting carrier SIMs or e-SIMs is a not that easy.
No mandatory 2FA as far as I know.
And sometimes they don’t work at all (that was my experience when I tried using a Google Voice number to sign up for Signal).
I’ve been using a GV number with no problem all this time. 🤷🏻♂🤨
So what you’re saying is that you don’t have an anonymous signal account…
