“China stole the f-35 plans!” So? Who care? Like literally who cares? What are they going to do, build air defense systems to counter america’s strategic baby murdering capabilities?
“China is going to invade taiwan!” Again, whocares? Why do you give a single fuck about taiwan? And why do you think china is going to invade when y’all constantly talk about how china doesn’t have the capacity to invade and taiwan would just blow the chip fabs anyway? And china has it’s own mature chip technology? So why do you think they’re poised to invade when you ourright say they cannot do that and have no incentive to, they’re not producing military gear capable of invasion, and their publicly stated goal of peaceful integration has been consistent with their praxis for, what, fifty goddamn years?
“China is spying on us through tiktok!” One, no they’re not, and no credible source believes they are, or even that they could. Two, senior us officials have openly stated they are trying to seize control of tiktok because it exposes kids to information outside of us control. Three, who care? What the fuck is china going to do to harm you? Why are you worried about china enough to talk about it constantly, but you’re totally dismissive of five eyes very real and publicly proven surveillance of your lives, which five eyes does use to cause you real material harm?
How can people this fucking smart be this fucking stupid when the state department sprinkles a little racism on their propaganda? Oh, and also, i was told today that wikipedia says china is doing uighurcide and they don’t need to read the un report because they skimmed it and then they start moving the goalposts from genocide to human rights vioations and bitching about prison labor which, again, you fuckers never talk about the us prison slave system that actually effects your life and that you could actually do something about? Fuck’s sake this shit is so goddamn frustrating. These people are smart as hell but as soon as they see an epicathic fold they turn in to the fucking john birch society.
China has been ramping up their rhetoric in Taiwan lately so I get the worry. They passed the law to threaten separatists with death, been ramping up drills, and made that statement condemning the new Taiwan president or prime minister or whoever they have for being more separatist. As for why worry, it’s because they will drag the rest of us into war with them, because the US feels obligated to defend Taiwan. I’m sure I’m not the only one tired of the US roaming around helping places like Israel, South Korea, and Taiwan while we could have health care.
Also, I remember a lot of people saying Russia wouldn’t invade Ukraine. I wasn’t in hexbear when they did though, so not sure what the consensus was here.
Everything else I agree with, though. The anger people have had over Tik Tok has been really aggravating. I hate it but equally as much as Instagram or Twitter. It’s not special. People just have been ramped up more because of racism.
They passed the law to threaten separatists with death
This seems pretty normal for any state to enact lol
The whole thing seemed to have heated up with Pelosi making an official visit when China vehemently warned her not to make an official visit. I think everyone was wondering what China’s response was gonna be, some actually thought they were gonna shoot Pelosi’s plane, but when she left they announced they were gonna do navy drills around Taiwan. The separatists and every Western politicians just keep pushing China, even Liz “lettuce lasted longer” Truss decided to visit Taiwan.
is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000
$10,000 and I get to commit treason? Sounds like a decent price
they will drag the rest of us into war with them, because the US feels obligated to defend Taiwan.
The US is the one dragging everyone towards war. They’re not going to “defend” Taiwan. They’re going to make sure as many Chinese people (on either side of the straight) die. While continuing to make weapon profits by indebting Taiwan (like with Ukraine, obviously).
I’m sure I’m not the only one tired of the US roaming around helping places like Israel, South Korea, and Taiwan
The only nation here they’re helping is Israel, since it’s a white settler colonial state that serves US interests just being the way it is. They’re absolutely not helping anyone in South Korea or Taiwan.
while we could have health care
It isn’t either/or and American imperialism makes money for the US. Of course the labor of Americans that goes towards designing and manufacturing weapons could go towards something else, but that stuff ultimately makes money for the US (and Americans) in the form of imperial power and subjugation around the world.
Plus you should care about American militarism because it’s evil and hurts people in other countries, not because it takes away from making someone on the aggressor’s side’s life easier.
They passed the law to threaten separatists with death, been ramping up drills, and made that statement condemning the new Taiwan president or prime minister or whoever they have for being more separatist.
This is just trolling from them though and I say that from a Taiwanese perspective. Taiwan is already independent and they’re larping that they own Taiwan. Any high profile people that troll China, or even make mild factual statements about Taiwan, makes them lose face, which causes them to lash out.
I wasn’t in hexbear when they did though, so not sure what the consensus was here.
I remember the consensus was peaking at “bro it’s totally not gonna happen” then next day they’re just doing it
“China is spying on us through tiktok!”
even if true, China isn’t going to show up where I live and send me to prison if I watch the wrong videos online.
I have been unable to slam that through their skulls. The us government security forces murdered a man almost on my doorstep and set off a global uprising that resulted in god knows how many deaths across the world, they made my city the most heavily occupied by military forces in the world to protect a cop, but we need to worry about china.
China’s ability to spy on you though TikTok is the exact same as the US’s. China can force bytedance to give them data or install RATs because bytedance is a Chinese company (kind of, it might be a bit complicated if bytedance resists). However, they store all US user data in Oracle serves in Virginia and Texas. US authorities can gain physical access to the infrastructure, demand Oracle to provide access or install RATs or demand USDS (a US based subsidiary of bytedance) to comply. The US had the same ability to spy on your TikTok as China does.
Oh, and then there’s the one literal fucking fascist who hangs around who kept yelling “never again” about uighurs while expressing complete and utter contempt for Palestinians and treating NATO as a divine force for good. Blocked that fucker. Turns out he was also, i cannot make this up, a kmt dead ender who believes the roc is the legitimate government of china. No comment on whether he’s going to support the roc’s invasion and conquest of mongolia when they somehow magically seize control of china.
Turns out he was also, i cannot make this up, a kmt dead ender who believes the roc is the legitimate government of china.
Sounds like a CIA-funded paid poster. These people exist in Taiwan but they’re all ex-KMT soldiers and over 80 years old. They don’t go shitposting on the internet, especially in English.
I don’t follow these things very closely, but I can’t see China invading Taiwan anytime soon, it’s not in China’s interest, and it would still be super costly. It’s better to play the waiting game and let a political and economic solution manifest itself.
I live in Taiwan and to quickly summarize, they will never invade. It’s literally a “face” thing for them. Historically, China gave 0 shits about Taiwan until the KMT losers started to claim it when they lost their war. It’s funny seeing Chinese nationalists get pissed off over Lai’s milquetoast statements. I would strongly prefer China adopt Russia’s rhetoric style which is more FACT BASED. Call Taiwan out for funding ASPI. Call the US out for forcing Taiwan to pay protection money by buying useless arms.
I suspect there will eventually be a time where Taiwan sees that it’s coupled to falling stars in the West and seek peaceful reunification.
Given that there’s been a harsh lesson of the dangers of outsourcing, it’s unlikely they’ll fortify the Taiwanese economy with another huge, critical industry any time soon.
Once the re-onshoring has reached a sufficient level that the West no longer NEEDS TSMC plants, the strategic value for the island plummets. The current security guarantees are pretty damn expensive, especially considering that the leading countries backing them have some crippling long-term risk factors (failing educational systems in 2025 are hardly the recipe for 10% annualized growth in 2040)
There is no “re-onshoring” of chip fabrication in the US. The TSMC plant in Arizona is a joke.
I suspect there will eventually be a time where Taiwan sees that it’s coupled to falling stars in the West and seek peaceful reunification.
This is Chinese nationalist propaganda and it doesn’t even make any sense. Even if Taiwan theoretically become as poor as let’s say Burkina Faso why would they want another country (the obvious aggressor) to take over? Has that ever happened in the history of humans?
another country
Taiwan IS China, specifically the government of Taiwan is called the “Republic of China”, a capitalist government that claims sovereignty over the whole of China (including a bunch of stuff outside its current borders, incidentally) but fled into exile on the island of Taipei, a Chinese province for hundreds of years, because they lost to the communists in the Chinese civil war seventy five years ago.
There, now you know the actual historical origins of “Taiwan”, as you apparently did not before.
My Chinese friends are convinced that they don’t want to pose some sort of threat to Western liberals. I am baffled and frustrated.
Want me to send some transcripts? I ask “why is china a threat to you?” And they start screaming about how good nato weapons are for killing chinese and it’s like… they’re salivating for massacring chinese people and they somehow think that their lust for destruction constitutes a threat from china. in sone way i absolutely cannot ascribe rationality to.
I sincerely believe people who don’t have extensive, face to face experience with American’s do not and maybe cannot understand how fucking awful our people and leaders are, the complete dehumanization of others, the absolute drive to steal everything at any cost including the destruction of the planet. I just don’t think most people think like that, and vis versa, I don’t think Americans can understand taht most of the world doesn’t think in zero-sum terms of absolute conquest, submission, and extraction.l
