“China stole the f-35 plans!” So? Who care? Like literally who cares? What are they going to do, build air defense systems to counter america’s strategic baby murdering capabilities?
“China is going to invade taiwan!” Again, whocares? Why do you give a single fuck about taiwan? And why do you think china is going to invade when y’all constantly talk about how china doesn’t have the capacity to invade and taiwan would just blow the chip fabs anyway? And china has it’s own mature chip technology? So why do you think they’re poised to invade when you ourright say they cannot do that and have no incentive to, they’re not producing military gear capable of invasion, and their publicly stated goal of peaceful integration has been consistent with their praxis for, what, fifty goddamn years?
“China is spying on us through tiktok!” One, no they’re not, and no credible source believes they are, or even that they could. Two, senior us officials have openly stated they are trying to seize control of tiktok because it exposes kids to information outside of us control. Three, who care? What the fuck is china going to do to harm you? Why are you worried about china enough to talk about it constantly, but you’re totally dismissive of five eyes very real and publicly proven surveillance of your lives, which five eyes does use to cause you real material harm?
How can people this fucking smart be this fucking stupid when the state department sprinkles a little racism on their propaganda? Oh, and also, i was told today that wikipedia says china is doing uighurcide and they don’t need to read the un report because they skimmed it and then they start moving the goalposts from genocide to human rights vioations and bitching about prison labor which, again, you fuckers never talk about the us prison slave system that actually effects your life and that you could actually do something about? Fuck’s sake this shit is so goddamn frustrating. These people are smart as hell but as soon as they see an epicathic fold they turn in to the fucking john birch society.
It may be overstated, but it’s legitimately the media/social media pushing this shit. It’s all funded by US-backed think tanks etc., sometimes even directly funded by the CIA’s NGOs. People are unable to critique the reporting on China because there’s no one in the media spheres (msm or the YouTube commentator sphere) actually against a Hot war with China.
We’re not at war with China. China is our largest trading partner. Realistically we could never be at war with China because our lives would be terribly hard without them. Stop wanting to be at war with China. Do they realize what that means???
Nearly everything is made in China or has parts or materials from China.
Actual war would shut down pipelines for medicine, consumer electronics of every kind, appliances, tools, reagents, etc
I don’t know if people realize how reliant we are on China.
I think some people unironically believe that manufacturing can be brought back to the West with the wave of a hand. Never mind that you need to build the factories. Never mind you have to retrain a generation of people who have lost institutional knowledge about manufacturing. Never mind the fact that China produces the most machine tools of any nation in the world. Just manifest it with thoughts and prayers.
It’s a skill gap the size of an ocean at this point.
There’s a confusion about China. The popular conception is that companies come to China because of low labor cost. I’m not sure what part of China they go to, but the truth is China stopped being the low-labor-cost country many years ago. And that is not the reason to come to China from a supply point of view. The reason is because of the skill, and the quantity of skill in one location and the type of skill it is.
The products we do require really advanced tooling, and the precision that you have to have, the tooling and working with the materials that we do are state of the art. And the tooling skill is very deep here. In the U.S., you could have a meeting of tooling engineers and I’m not sure we could fill the room. In China, you could fill multiple football fields.
- Tim Cook
More importantly it would need to be PROFTABLE. In a capitalist country institutions aren’t going to do shit if there’s no profit involved. The only way this would work if they forbade US “allied” countries to trade with China and then forced them to buy US goods, and ideallly cripple their productive capacity at the same time (see: destruction of Nordstream 2). In this world still the US and any countries aligned with the US will quickly become quite poor in terms of living standards.
Just to be clear, this one particular argument is exactly what was said before the great war.
It’s never been an argument against war. It assumes rationality and intelligence in our leaders.
China does represent a threat to them. China is the only place that can actually turn the treats off
InshaAllah I may live to see the Chinese blockade of America. Mother of all sanctions.
Oh, and then there’s the one literal fucking fascist who hangs around who kept yelling “never again” about uighurs while expressing complete and utter contempt for Palestinians and treating NATO as a divine force for good. Blocked that fucker. Turns out he was also, i cannot make this up, a kmt dead ender who believes the roc is the legitimate government of china. No comment on whether he’s going to support the roc’s invasion and conquest of mongolia when they somehow magically seize control of china.
Turns out he was also, i cannot make this up, a kmt dead ender who believes the roc is the legitimate government of china.
Sounds like a CIA-funded paid poster. These people exist in Taiwan but they’re all ex-KMT soldiers and over 80 years old. They don’t go shitposting on the internet, especially in English.
Liberal concern about China is to me basically the same as liberal concern about trans women in women’s sports. Did you know a single fucking thing about this topic before you opened your mouth? Name one women’s sports team in any sport. Shut the fuck up.
