59 points

But a Republican tried to kill another Republican! And an old guy had a cold!

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Yes it’s quite the collection of ultra-complex confusing and incomprehensible mysteries

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5 points

It’s more like a school shooter whom Republicans refuse to do anything about in regards to restricting access to arms nearly killed their presidential candidate.

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2 points

Covid is way worse than a cold

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10 points

He had a “cold” at the debate. He got Covid later.

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30 points

a bit on the nose isn’t it?

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89 points

That’s pretty much how easy and obvious the choice is

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17 points

What’s it say about our country that we have so many that want to vote republican?

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That media has gone unchecked for many decades. They shouldn’t be able to spew lies and ignore key facts to create a false narrative like republicans have been doing for 50+ years.

Shit should’ve been regulated long ago so as to not have the current situation we’re in where a portion of the population has become brainwashed.

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14 points

nothing that isn’t already well known

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5 points

Whats it say about our country that so-called-progressives won’t vote Democratic.

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12 points

Some people need help getting it

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19 points

boTh paRtIeS arE thE same!

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14 points

Hmmm, the nice old guy or the nasty old guy, so hard to choose! If only there were some difference between them to help me decide.

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9 points

The orange one that’s a racist rapist with 34 felonies states he’s going to be a dictator

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But Biden’s son got found guilty and is trying to use the exact same defense Trump used to get off, I’m just so confused about which one is better. Biden’s son got done because of tenuous charges that republicans lied about and trump got done because of lies that republicans lie about. How to choose?! They’re so similar.

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That seems dependent on how a person feels about the specific tone of two old guys’ rhetoric.

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No one really thinks Trump is nice, though, do they? Really?

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What if the yanks had more than 2 parties, maybe it would be great. Before anyone says anything, yes i know that other parties can exist but they dont do really anything.

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What if the yanks had more than 2 parties

We’re often lucky to have more than one party. States like Texas and Florida are so heavily gerrymandered that supermajorities for the prevailing party are practically assured. The Dems form a rump of opposition in these states, while Greens and Libertarians are barely an afterthought.

i know that other parties can exist but they dont do really anything.

Constituencies in Europe are significantly smaller and more regionally distinct. Hard to have a Scottish New Labor Party or a French Polynesia Party when our states are dominated by constituencies that moved in barely a generation ago. By all rights we should have a “Texas Party” and a “California Party”. But its worth noting that the modern Texas GOP was built up practically brick-by-brick through George HW Bush and the Standard Oil company, originally based out in NY/NJ/CT. Dallas, Houston, and Austin are dominated by families of east coast Republicans who came spilling in during the 80s/90.

We should probably have a “Christian Democrats” party or a “Tea Party” properly, but the major religious and ideological leaders of the past were fully wedded to the existing post-WW2 partisan establishment. The closest we ever really had to a break-away party in the last half-century was the Jim Crow Segregationists under George Wallace. And that fell apart in the face of Nixon’s Southern Strategy simply gobbling up all the Dixiecrats and turning them into modern day Republicans.

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What if the yanks had more than 2 parties, maybe it would be great. Before anyone says anything, yes i know that other parties can exist but they dont do really anything.

That’s because the Electoral College says other parties, who will necessarily not get as many votes as the other two, will not get any electoral votes. Most states are winner-take-all. As far as Presidential elections go, that’s why there’s never a third party winner.

Locally, you’re likely to find “Independent” candidates who run without financial support from one of the two flavors of political soda, and occasionally other political organizations as well. Locally (city government, school board, etc.) it’s possible. But nationally no party has had the reach or interest from voters to overcome the hurdles to federal election. Many have tried.

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Technically we do, but only the Republicans and Democrats are ever given attention in the media so they’re the only two parties most people know about before seeing the other options on the ballot. Add to that you get guys like Vermin Supreme as alternative choices, which if you don’t know anything about them makes them look even crazier than the two big douchebags you do know about.

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Not to mention that third parties CAN’T win with our current system except in extremely unusual circumstances. In order for viable third parties here we have to implement a different voting system like ranked-choice voting. A couple states have done this along with non-partisan redistricting but it’s not enough.

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That’s because of circumstances beyond the average voters control where the majority of people inevitably votes between 2 parties and a vote for independent gets essentially “counted” but “thrown away” because the pool is less than the other 2 main parties.

In our current voting system “first past the post”, It inevitably leads to a 2 party system regardless of if other parties exist.

This video is one of my favorites that explain this problem. https://youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo?si=ri9DbpvXxjyRonN3

The only way I see that we can maybe break past this is to band together and convince more than half of one of the major parties to vote independent. It’s possible perhaps, but highly unlikely. ( the video kinda covers this as well. )

Or maybe convince the voter base to change voting systems. I personally like the sound of “ranked choice” voting. Granted it doesn’t fix everything but it would be alot better than what we have now. And it might give independents a higher chance of possibly winning.

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In our current voting system “first past the post”, It inevitably leads to a 2 party system regardless of if other parties exist.

only if voters choose to vote strategically instead of voting their values. the solution to break the duopoly is to insist on values voting.

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What if the yanks had more than 2 parties

Political parties represent the interests of the wealthy - for a third party in the US to be successful, it would have to cater to a moneyed interest that the current “good cop/bad cop” routine doesn’t cater to. As far as I can tell, the capitalist class in the US is perfectly happy with this duopoly - so no third party.

I’m afraid that a third party is no “silver bullet” - here in South Africa, we have a whole bunch of parties, and guess what… they still only end up serving the interests of the wealthy. Our largest two factions of political racketeers are neoliberals that will happily bend over backwards to sell South Africans out to foreign corporations, while the third-largest is literally just a front for a bunch of overmoneyed Zulu royalty - no surprises that our voter apathy is even worse than in the US.

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Kamala Harris is also now the only candidate who won’t be fucking 80 while in office.

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