Former President Donald Trump urged members of a crowd in Florida to vote and said that if he wins, they “won’t have to vote anymore.”

Speaking at a Turning Point Action event in West Palm Beach on Friday, Trump, who tried to overturn the 2020 election he lost, delivered a cryptic message.

“And again, Christians, get out and vote!” he said to a cheering audience. “Just this time. You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years. You know what? It’ll be fixed! It’ll be fine! You won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians. I love you, Christians! I’m a Christian. I love you. Get out. You gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don’t have to vote again.”

4 points

To be fair, even thought that’s not needed with this guy, what he could actually mean is that he doesn’t give a crap who anyone votes for in 4 years since its not going to be him anyway, and for him he is the only person that counts.

But yeah, all the other theories are also plausible unfortunately.

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I was hoping someone else in here would say this. This would be his second term.

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You are wrong. All you have to do is listen to the words he actually said.

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Could be the only thing he cares about getting “fixed” are his impending criminal trials?

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You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years.

I think it was just his weird way to address the lazy ass demographic which can’t be bothered to vote even once in 4 years.

But those are mostly people with executive dysfunction, so how does his speech help, I dunno

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*erectile

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This brings me pain since I have the former, but don’t have the latter. Despite being generally unattractive to women. OK, maybe not unattractive, but with the former you just don’t use the chances given by being attractive.

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Trump says you won’t need to vote if he wins. But here’s the thing: It’s not just Democrats who should worry. Trump’s chaos could destroy the whole rigged system - Republican and Democrat. He might seem like an undertaker of the American democracy, but in doing so he will drown his own ship, too. But we need to help him steer it into the iceberg of organized social anger instead of isolated floes made of any expectations his mostly temporarily deluded and desperate voters may have or some single-cause activisms or culture wars that will only benefit him. Those will be shattered within the first few months of his term, as he won’t have COVID to use as a convenient excuse for his failures to not only address, but at least not make worse the organic crisis of the system, like Genocide Joe has had.

EDIT: I’m not saying this to fucking endorse him or passivity. What I mean is that the world does not end at the ballot box and we need to reckon with the possibility of his victory and that there are countless other means of resisting him other than just depositing all our hopes in the Democrats. And that even though resisting Trumpism will not be an easy task, the instability and disappointment that a presidency of establishment’s populist enfant terrible, in an era that breeds virtually no statesmen of great stature, is bound to engender, has the potential actually make it easier.

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What does it feel like to get raped in the ass by this fucker, Americans? You gonna do something about it or just take it?

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That one kid tried to do something about it, then everyone decried him.

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Except Kyle Gass

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they tried to do something about it, and that was wrong.

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The electoral college has been doing that for so many years our assholes look like Bonnie Rotten after a gang bang.

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Yeah! We should not let these ivory towered, elbow patched professors vote for us!

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Thx for the recommendation

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Ancient Greece also fell, cults and ideologies outperformed their bickering through sheer dumb single-mindedness.

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Ancient Greece fell because of lead. It’s believed the aristocrats were ingesting 1mg of lead everyday. They used it for various things including wine preservative and sweetener.

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260 points

Your country is insane.

In any other democratic nation in the world, a politician saying this would be finished.

I hope for the sake of humanity that all the sane people in the US go out and tells everyone they know that cares about democracy and the rule of law what Trump is planning to do, especially in the swing states.

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I hate to break it to you, but it’s not just our country.

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This is lemmy, the goal is always to shit on America.

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“I’m the normal one, everyone around me is crazy!!!”

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Pointing out flaws instead of blindly shouting “murka numbuh wun!” is not a bad thing…

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Probably because it’s one of the worst examples of many bad things. Source: am American. The only way you can avoid criticizing America as a thinking person is to focus on the ways it’s a little better than other countries. For example we mostly have clean drinking water while other countries don’t. But if you for a moment focus back on America itself it’s hard not to find things that just damned well ought to be better. Never be sick in America. Our healthcare is a pathetic piece of shit!

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Right, Russia is fucked too

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It may be the most successful example of indoctrination of parts of the populace of a supposedly developed nation by the ruling class though.

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It’s a smashing success for regulatory capture of the courts so that unlimited funds, foreign and domestic, can be legally spent on propaganda targeting fear-addicted racists.

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98 points

Our country is full of proudly ignorant bootlickers

Turns out all you need to do is make up some bullshit about “American dreams” and “bootstraps,” make them believe they too can (and probably already should!) be a billionaire, and the one thing stopping that are those goddamn Marxist Democrats and their “progressive taxation,” and “social safety nets for the blacks (please ignore the fact that I’m on disability, it’s different)”.

Republicans have been sabotaging our country’s own public education system for 25+ years at this point. Selling the future prosperity of our nation down the river for a voter-base with cult-like devotion, and a unique ability to ignore objective reality.

Unfortunately for the planet, it seems to have been wildly successful.

The next step is to do away with democracy altogether.

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It’s been the Koch brothers and the John Birch Society’s dream (amongst others) to propagandize so many people of the “American Dream” and evils of anything other than capitalism. They were ecstatic when the Tea Party movement worked out for them, but they lost control of it with Trump. It’s a monster of their own making.

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and evils of anything other than capitalism

*other than WHAT THEY CALL capitalism

They look at monopolies where the market leader buys laws, lobbies for protection and muscles competition out of the game unhindered and then they decry anybody calling it out as communists or socialists or the devil or whatever other bad word is en vogue that day.

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Kochs lost control of Trump to the JBS types. The Kochs are more Mitch McConnell type power brokers, all about the money and corporations. JBS is more MAGA, with the heavy undercurrent of conspiracy.

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The GOP have been selling these people hope and magic since Reagan. It’s no longer about hard work for republicans, now all they have to do is destroy cities and kick out everyone they don’t like, and we will return to the magic that never existed in the 1950’s.

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Exactly - I started noticing prideful ignorance in the early 2010s. People around me made bad choices and would not be corrected. Their ignorance was just as valid as someone else’s actual knowledge. That’s when, strengthened by their own baseless pride, their shame disappeared. I’m not saying shame is good, but when it’s the only thing keeping the deplorables in check, maybe a little of it helps.

It used to be that I’m general, horrible people realised they were horrible and at least went through the motions of being decent. They were like cockroaches scurrying for the shadows when you turned on the light. Now they’re like a cat peeing on your bed - they pause long enough to lock eyes with you, then continue peeing.

Speaking optimistically, at least now we know exactly who they are.

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They were like cockroaches scurrying for the shadows when you turned on the light.

Oh, I actually used this comparison once when such people still generally did that. They were pissed. I didn’t directly address them BTW, they decided which side they’re on for themselves.

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It’s wild that all it took was one sick, deranged, racist, liar (who hasn’t been able to string together a coherent sentence since the early 90s) to lead by example…

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Turns out all you need to do is make up some bullshit about “American dreams” and “bootstraps,” make them believe they too can (and probably already should!) be a billionaire, and the one thing stopping that are those goddamn Marxist Democrats and their “progressive taxation,” and “social safety nets for the blacks (please ignore the fact that I’m on disability, it’s different)”.

Well, to generalize your statement a bit, I’ve had a conflict with people who thought that the only thing preventing them from living in socialist heaven were jerks like me talking about human rights, market economy, transparency, accountability, governments actually changing, putting thieves in jail and getting activists out of jail, legalization of various substances, any consensual sexual activity, privacy, freedom of speech, competitive judicial system, culture of protest, yadda-yadda once a few years …

They sincerely thought all this prevented life in my country from being good, while themselves being thieving ignorant intriguing insecure shits was normal. You know, the kind of people who contribute clearly negatively to the society, but think life is unjust to them, they should live better and somebody has stolen everything from them.

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It’s especially weird because he’s a Republican. Traditionally they’re the party more sensitive to controversies like that, and older conservative folks I used to know would squirm if they saw the tapes or statements.

But honestly Trump just drowns everything out. Most people don’t, and never will, know the controversies because there are simply too many to keep up with.

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Gingrich has been married three times. In 1962, he wed Jacqueline May “Jackie” Battley (February 21, 1936 – August 7, 2013), his former high school geometry teacher, when he was 19 years old and she was 26.

Throughout his congressional campaign in 1974, Gingrich was having an affair with a young volunteer. An aide who worked with Gingrich throughout the 1970s stated that “it was common knowledge that Newt was involved with other women during his marriage to Jackie.”

In the spring of 1980, he filed for divorce from Jackie after beginning an affair with Marianne Ginther.

In September 1980, according to friends who knew them both, Newt visited Jackie in the hospital the day after she had undergone surgery to treat her uterine cancer; once there, Newt began talking about the terms of their divorce, at which point Jackie threw him out of the room.

Although Newt’s presidential campaign staff continued to insist in 2011 that Jackie had requested the divorce, court documents from Carroll County, Georgia, indicated that she had in fact asked a judge to block the process, stating that although “she has adequate and ample grounds for divorce … she does not desire one at this time [and] does not admit that this marriage is irretrievably broken.”

According to L. H. Carter, Gingrich’s campaign treasurer, Gingrich said of Jackie: “She’s not young enough or pretty enough to be the wife of the President. And besides, she has cancer.”

Following the divorce, Jackie had to raise money from friends in her congregation to help her and the children make ends meet; she later filed a petition in court stating that Newt had failed to properly provide for his family.[262] Newt submitted a financial statement to the judge, which showed that he had been “providing only $400 a month, plus $40 in allowances for his daughters. He claimed not to be able to afford any more. But in citing his own expenses, he listed $400 just for ‘Food / dry cleaning, etc.’—for one person.”

In 1981, a judge ordered him to provide considerably more; in 1993, Jackie stated in court that Newt had failed to obey the 1981 order “from the day it was issued.”

In 1993, while still married to Marianne, Gingrich began an affair with House of Representatives staffer Callista Bisek, more than two decades his junior.

Gingrich filed for divorce from Marianne in 1999, a few months after she had been diagnosed with multiple sclerosis.

On January 19, 2012, Marianne alleged in an interview on ABC’s Nightline that she had declined to accept Newt’s suggestion of an open marriage.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt_Gingrich

It’s been a thing for a while. They do a performative squirm and vote for monsters anyways

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Your country is insane.

You don’t say! I simply hadn’t noticed! What’s so crazy about people voting for someone with no experience whatsoever except for being a rich asshole which he proved every second breath? I mean that’s just normal!!

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In any other democratic nation in the world, a politician saying this would be finished.

Unfortunately not anymore, no. Bolsonaro (luckily voted out) and Orban and the Polish potato (also luckily voted out) have been spouting similar bullshit for 10+ years. Also, Erdoğan talks bullshit like that.

All of them a little less incoherent than the fat orange turd, but still, they say this kind of bullshit.

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The craziest part is that, even with the absolute insanity this election has already been (and it will absolutely get worse), I’m seriously worried there’s going to be a worse turnout than 2020. 30% of voters are holding the country hostage, but another 30+% still can’t be bothered to get out and do the most basic thing they can do to fix it. It’s absurd. The nutjobs in the US are dragging the country to the gallows, but apathetic voters are tying the noose.

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I’m seriously worried there’s going to be a worse turnout than 2020.

2020 had the highest voter turnout in any US election. Donald Trump got more votes in 2020 (more than 74 million) than any other Presidential candidate, winner or loser, in history… except for Joe Biden in 2020, who got 81 million.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election

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I am aware (hence my point of 30%), and that was still abysmal. 60% turnout is not much of an achievement, and that only happened because of the pandemic (which is also still happening, though easier to ignore now). Existential threats to the country just aren’t going to motivate the chronically apathetic the same way, even if they are actually a bigger threat overall.

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in any other democratic nation, he would have been finished in 2015, when the “grab’em by the pussy” tape came out

but no, it’s 2024 and we STILL have to waste time arguing about drag queens and library books

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To this day, I will never know how it didn’t end the moment he made fun of that photographer who had the deformity on his arm.

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It’s because the country has a long history of treating disabled people like shit. This country literally gave the germans the inspiration to do eugenics shit.

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the list of things that should have ended trump is too long for any comment, so here https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/01/donald-trump-worst-president-ever

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