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“Are EVs only for 80+ percent of the population?”

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No, because a lot of city people live in places where they can’t charge cars, and–at least in Canada where we kiss the boots of landlords–no one’s forcing charging infrastructure multi-unit dwellings.

Electric cars aren’t for city dwellers, they’re for suburban homeowners.

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Most, if not all, of the new apartment complexes in my area heavily advertise they have EV charging on site. Problem is they usually only install 1 or 2 chargers for a complex that has parking for 50-100 cars. That sort of ratio is fine anywhere else, but it’s not a reliable option if you and your neighbours (who were also sold by that promise) all need to get to work in the morning.

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Yeah, honestly the infrastructure is the most of the problem. Even in crazy cold, battery life drops but doesn’t disappear.

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How often do you have to refill your gas tank? If it’s damn near daily, then your ability to rely on an EV is going to be much more limited than if it’s closer to once or twice a week.

If you have an outlet at home that can be used to charge an EV, and you don’t regularly drive hundreds of miles in a day, an EV is likely a viable replacement for an ICE car. If you do make long distance trips regularly enough for that to be a concern, you will probably be more dependent on the availability of charging infrastructure in your area.

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But on the flip side, if you’re rarely filling your tank because you drive so little, does an EV really make a lot of sense? The people who will see the biggest impact (financially and environmentally) are the ones who use most of their EV’s range every day.

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11 points

Nha, city dwellers could use bicycles most of the times

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Or the electrified transit we should be building

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Bus driver here. Our transit commission finally got it’s first EV bus to start the transition to the electric system! But we still need to build the charging stations for it and other EVs to use, not to mention the bureaucracy and other normalities that go in certifying any vehicle for the road, plus our one garage did kinda burn down, so that has set things back a wee bit…

It’s coming, but do expect it to take a long-ass time.

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Trams dont need charging stations. We need more trams. We had them 100 years ago we could do so much better today

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Too, yes. Under 10kms all can and will be bike with good infrastructure. Anything beyond that can be public transportation, again, with good infrastructure

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I meant my statement to be inclusive with cycling.

We also need localized transit because some people are unable to cycle. Some people may also refuse to cycle in some weather. Some people also work labour jobs and don’t really want the extra exercise on their commute.

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Depends how “city” you’re talking. If you’re in a large core, sure, but Canadian cities are sprawling enough you really need something faster in many urban areas (like public transit).

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That’s why I said most of the times. Anything under 10km can easily be done by bike, especially once you get used to it.

I ride my bike to work every day and I do the ~5km on bike faster than by car, every single time

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We should also address how wasteful and poorly planned our cities are

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Yep. It’s tough, though, since building is slow, and now that the infrastructure stretching way out is there it doesn’t make much sense to abandon it. Some cities are getting rid of stupid zoning laws at least.

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Maybe with today’s batteries, but that can/should change.

There is also the whole North American train phobia.

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