159 points

No VAT or fuel tax is madness

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I knew about the lack of a kerosene tax for flights but no VAT on international flights is just downright nuts to me.

Bread, Tampons, and books are more highly taxed than (most international) flights. Talk about distorted markets.

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41 points

Why is this still a thing… this should be the top issue on all political agendas

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19 points

Now I don’t agree with it (in fact, I am strongly opposed to the tax exemption), but the reasoning is that this way you create an ‘even playing field’ for aviators all across the globe. In other words: it’s doesn’t become more attractive to tank in Arab Gulf states, making their airlines out-compete European airlines.

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42 points

That’s always the excuse they make. But it’s highly flawed. You can tax the planes that land in your country. They can’t evade landing in your country, and they don’t get to decide where people want to go.

Either they are complete hypocrites or they are the most useless idiots when it comes to finding solutions.

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16 points

I’ve heard this reason being mentioned, but I’m not really convinced by it. If this is of concern, you can tax the combustion of fuel on flights going in or out of the country, instead of taxing the sale of the fuel.

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But this could be said about every industry, right? Oh, if we would be not be taxed, we would be more competitive worldwide.

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10 points

It’s not like the plane has much of an option where to tank. Planes don’t tank more than needed for any flight. I struggle to comprehend this point

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1 point

Introduce tariffs on kerosene remaining in landing planes and used during the flight. Problem solved.

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10 points

I wouldn’t say madness. But it is certainly very unfair to the rail industry. They should both be exempt or neither.

I know a lot of people are big fans of trains, but I’m not taking a train from Madrid to Copenhagen for business. It’s not gonna happen. Madrid->Paris maybe. They’re opening a new line that’ll cover the distance in 5 hours.

But within countries trains are absolutely the way to go. At least here in Spain Even if you are on the train longer than the plane, there is no security-state bullshit to deal with at the stations and the experience is much nicer.

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8 points

And you don’t have to show up to the train station that long before your scheduled departure compared to flights. Train stations are also centrally located for most people compared to airports. My thinking has been that if it’s around 5-7 hrs by train, the flight will be faster but the time you spend waiting for the flight makes the time you spend pretty much equal out.

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5 points

I agree! The time it takes to go from my home to the airport, then going through check in, security check, etc, is around the same as just doing the whole thing by train. And I can take a longer nap on the train, always a plus.

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6 points

Cries in German’s Deutsche Bahn.

I take the long distance train a lot, over 20 times a year a lot. These are informed tears.

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1 point

Alright from where to where is this train you so frequently take?

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82 points

Because fuel and oil are still not CO² taxed as they should.

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34 points

I gather aviation fuel isn’t taxed at all

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9 points

Airline companies are basically organized crime.

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6 points

The best and most elegant solution.

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49 points

The article presents some good suggestions. It’s pretty bonkers that taking the train across borders in Europe is more difficult and expensive than a plane

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48 points

the [air transport] industry’s importance to the economy and tourism sector

That won’t age well

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11 points

Because some EU states let trains directly compete with flights regionally or between bordering states

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11 points

Italy does this and the train won. It’s a good example of how the train can win.

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