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AND he only did so after the “proper channel” for whistle blowing, his internal superiors, told him to shut the fuck up.

I feel this always needs to be said. The United States has a lot of slogans and posters about integrity and ethics for a nation that has neither in practice.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2014/03/07/snowden-i-raised-nsa-concerns-internally-over-10-times-before-going-rogue/

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Do as I say, not as I do

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“The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread.” ― Anatole France

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To be fair, it is a bit out of context: https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something

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Well that makes more sense than the Obama admin coming up with it

Bout to say, I could have sworn I was hearing that well before Obama was president. That’s a Bush admin slogan, isn’t it?

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Thanks for reiterating this and posting a source. Every time I see an article on Snowden year over year, someone brings up the tired old “argument” that because he is now trapped in Russia, that somehow makes everything he did “wrong”, and invalidates everything he exposed the government for doing. The media campaign against him was apparently quite effective, and these soundbites are ever ready to jump out of people’s mouths without any research or critical thinking.

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And of course, the next logical step is to leak gigabytes of secret and sensitive information.

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…Leaked to a reputable member of the fourth estate to decide what was safe to report. Do you disagree with the founders of the United States about the importance of the fourth estate’s role in keeping leadership honest?

The only other steps short of that would have been to either quit and shut the fuck up or continue participating and shut the fuck up.

Sounds like you just wanted him to shut the fuck up about your freedoms being eroded by the government that’s supposed to protect them.

I don’t believe willful ignorance is a defensible position, ever.

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It very much is, if the offense is egregious. And the NSA spying on everyone and their employees trading nudes the NSA collected very much is egregious. And to make it sound like he just dumped the raw leaks does not make your argument seem more credible.

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Or, you know, he could have talked to journalists without such security breach.

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Become Russian with this one simple trick!

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You’re getting downvoted for stating what Snowden out for what he is – a Kremlin operative traitor.

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He had no other choice. Russia was not his first goal to find refuge in. But germany and other countries did not take him in.

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Snowden is a textbook example of why organizations should not be allowed to police themselves or control the avenues of reporting misconduct.

There should be a memorial to him in DC. Ruined his life to tell the people what their elected officials are doing with all of the power we grant them.

But no, to save face, ego, etc we drove him into the willing arms of Putin to be able to use as a propaganda tool so he wouldn’t be killed for daring to speak truth to power.

Support for prosecuting him did untold damage to my opinion of Obama.

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And the hundreds of drone strikes.

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Same. Honestly, fuck Obama. He’s not as bad as Trump, but he’s still a corporate Democrat shill.

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Snowden deserved Obamas pardon a lot more than Manning. I get the sense that Manning leaked stuff for the sake of leaking stuff, while Snowden uncovered a vast domestic and unconstitutional espionage program to which the general public was unaware.

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NSA being an angry little child with a napkin aside, I believe there was a legal hurdle to Snowden being pardoned: You need to be tried & sentenced before a presidential pardon can be applied, as far as I understood.

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Surprisingly, that actually isn’t required. Nixon was pardoned without even being indicted.

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Of course he’s not a traitor. He exposed politicians who were actively violating the constitution. Those politicians are the traitors, traitors to American ideals and laws. At the very least, they’re criminals.

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Meme aside, I’m commenting to show appreciation for the correct use of quotation marks. Grammar nazi stamp of approval.

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“Grammar nazi stamp of approval.”

This is a sentence fragment.

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Touché.

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So is that.

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“If you see something suspicious “speak up” is correct usage?

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Thanks for the information but jeez that makes me feel uncomfortable for some reason.

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This hurts my programmer soul, I’ll start escaping quotation marks instead

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As a native English speaker I feel like I get a say in this. This is the worst rule I’ve seen proposed. Unbalanced quotation marks are confusing as hell.

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YES! I’ve seen this formatting a lot in published books but never on the internet.

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WTF, I thought it was wrong. This is weird.

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"Correct use of “quotation marks”

I don’t think OP’s meme used quotation marks correctly… 👀

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Normally if a quote spans multiple paragraphs, you don’t close the quote at the end of the paragraph, but you do start the next paragraph with quote marks.

This is just one sentence with three sets of double quotes.

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I can’t imagine it being grammatically sound to have a sentence span multiple paragraphs though.

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Assange made a fatal mistake

Technically not fatal

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Yet

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