So, I’ve had moments in the past where I might have spent 30 seconds thinking about this subject but ultimately I don’t give a fuck about competitive sports so my analysis usually ends up being, all competitive sports should be banned because competitive sports are dumb. Which is admittedly a neanderthal take.
But yeah, now the global athletic showdown is going down and seemingly everyone in my immediate vicinity keeps clutching their pearls and I guess I’m sick of not being able to advocate for trans comrades appropriately and articulate a proper response.
So what’s a better response besides, “who cares?” Am I missing something? Like, if all things were equitable, what would or should competitions look like?
Help me out. I honestly have no idea.
I was trying to bait the rabid transphobia to the surface for a report but it looks like our mods got it already.
The only negative consequence here is people like you who continue to talk complete nonsense regarding trans people’s bodies, while having no understanding what transitioning actually does to a person’s biology. Trans women who are on HRT do not produce more testosterone than their cis counterpart, so this whole discussion surrounding “male hormones” is getting really tiring.
Olympics famously bans people for having like high testosterone, specifically black and brown people. Its like old school racism and misogyny of course. Going by the whole oh “Man naturally strong, high testosterone woman weak low testosterone” is very ignorant and also pretty specifically discriminatory towards intersex folk too.
But yeah of course people might not even listen all the above stuff.
The bottomline is that its pretty much excluding people from sports or any other thing by some rigid eugenicist beliefs.
Other than all that I don’t know. Anyone saying X sport used to be good until they allowed people who are gay or trans players is just trying be hateful. They want to target and push people to corners. Its not the sanctity of the game or whatever its plain hatred. When this gets to an international level it of course becomes exclusionary of any third world people as I mentioned above.
Its whites only with a different branding.
all competitive sports should be banned because competitive sports are dumb. Which is
admittedly a neanderthal take.a correct and good take
So play sports with your friends for fun. This shit where people care about the outcome of strangers playing games is weird and bad.
This is a really lazy and dismissive argument so I’m not sure why I’m bothering to write a full response.
I watch sports for the community aspect and because it’s enjoyable to watch anything performed on a high enough level.
When I watch a professional game I see the clash of competing styles within that sport, sometimes with radically different approaches to the game. Those styles have decades if not centuries of history that can be traced through different clubs, coaches and individuals.
There’s also something fascinating about seeing individuals perform on a level that noone I know ever could and following their journeys across 20-30 year careers.
When it comes to playing sports with my friends for fun, I did, but then I got older and it would take a huge amount of organising to get us on the same field for two hours. We can all watch a match together online though.
I also played esports on a level that could be considered competitive, for money, even if admittedly my own skill level was very mid. Playing 4 day lan events where teams adapt and adjust to each other and a meta develops over each day and then coming out the winner at the end only increased my appreciation and enjoyment of watching people with 100x my ability go through the same process on a much bigger stage with far higher stakes.
I have to ask - do you not enjoy anything that is popular, in a community or with your friends? Should people stop going to concerts because they can go play some instruments with their friends? What about people who love sports but aren’t physically able to play? Or the sport is not popular where they live?
if it were true that one can easily just transition and go play in the female league of a sport and immediately dominate, why aren’t all of the worlds biggest and most successful athletes trans women? if experiencing a “male” puberty makes a trans woman inherently stronger than any cis woman out there, why has only one open trans woman competed in the olympics ever (where she unfortunately did not place in the top three)? if it were as easy as the right makes it sound, you’d think we’d dominate every category effortlessly but you just don’t see that. the opposition to trans women in sports relies completely on a fantasy.
I think this is super helpful especially when responding to the dipshits. Definitely keeping these talking points in the chamber.
it’s usually effective with these people because there’s no argument for banning trans women from women’s sports that’s based in reality, its genuinely a make-believe issue.
estrogen also really weakens you! it’s totally a thing. pre-transition, i was in the gym pretty frequently so i built up quite a lot of muscle mass. now i can’t lift something more than like 10 pounds. even had to get a polymer stock for my rifle because it was too heavy.
ultimately I don’t give a fuck about competitive sports so my analysis usually ends up being, all competitive sports should be banned because competitive sports are dumb. Which is admittedly a neanderthal take.
I think this is one of the takes that would fit well in that eugenics IQ bell curve meme.
But following this thread out of a similar interest.
