I have an old ThinkPad T42 coming my way. I plan to use it alongside my daily driver mainly for reading, emacs, and retro gaming. I will be dual booting a lightweight flavour of Linux (TBD) and Windows 98 on it.
However, I am a bit concerned about its ability to handle today’s internet, with all of its heavy websites.
I would love to hear from those of you who are still using old ThinkPads (or other vintage laptops) in 2024. How do you make it work? Do you use lightweight browsers, specific configurations, or lightweight websites to get around the limitations of older hardware?
Are there any specific tips or tricks you can share for getting the most out of an old ThinkPad on the modern web?
Looking forward to hearing about your experiences!
Considering it has a pentium, and I have core 2 duos that won’t open some websites, you might run into some issues as well. Can’t fix that, the cpu just doesn’t physically have the instruction set. But other than that, have fun and don’t expect performance greater than a raspberry pi.
Thank you. I do have my expectations in check. That is the reason the machine is restricted to certain activities like reading and writing/journaling.
I was just curious if anyone is using it to browse the web, especially with a combination of lightweight OS and browser.
Based on the heritage foundation leak there’s a non zero number of people out there still using Windows XP. I don’t think anyone was trying to use 98 though.
You correctly pointed out the seemingly only problem, which is indeed internet browsing. In some rare cases you might get away with something like Firefox with disabled javascript, supposing you max out the RAM. But you should look at other light browsers that will make it more viable.
My go-to browser on old machines is luakit, configured to render javascript on demand. When a website you want to visit doesn’t work without javascript, you enable it just for that website and cross your fingers it doesn’t crash. With js disabled, you can browser normally.
Also become friends with FOSS front-ends to popular corpo services. Forget youtube, use invidious (works without js), forget fandom, use breeze wiki, etc. (see https://farside.link for a list of front-ends)
One other thing you need is patience. A lot of it.
Yes. I plan on using a lightweight Linux based OS for daily operations and restrict Windows only to game. I also know Firefox would not cut it, and using an older build of FF is a security risk.
The intention behind making this post was to learn from the community what they do to browse the web on vintage machines, if they even do.
Thank you for pointing me to Luakit and https://farside.link. I already use alternative front ends like Piped and Nitter but it is nice to see there are many more options.
Frankly, I use links2 for most of my web browsing even on my daily driver (which would by many be considered vintage anyway) and use Firefox for websites that wouldn’t work otherwise, that I absolutely need.
It’s good practice to get used to light software from all walks of life, one might come to realize they don’t need the fancy stuff in their life to use computers.
Good luck.
PS: There’s the #oldcomputerchallenge channel on libera.chat you might want to visit. Many people there who live this lo-end lifestyle on a day-to-day basis, who’d be happy to help.
It has been more than a decade since I used IRC, #oldcomputerchallenge is a very good reason to get back to using it.
I was superficially aware of Gopher, but I did not know of the other internet protocols mentioned at: https://portal.mozz.us
Also, I completely agree with your point about using light software. I hope I come across more such software as I go down this rabbit hole.
I have learnt so much from your few comments. Thank you so much!
P.S. I am curious to know what your daily driver is, only if you don’t mind sharing.
PPS: here’s my guide on luakit, describing the js on demand and adblocking: https://portal.mozz.us/gopher/triapul.cz/0/phlog/2023-05-18-shortys-luakit-guide.txt
Use a lightweight browser like SeaMonkey, use a content/JS blocker like uBlock Origin plus uMatrix(eMatrix). Only enable required scripts and such
The biggest impact would be to max out the memory. That will not help with browsers like Firefox, but will help with other items.
Plus there is a whole world out there that many people ignore or do not know about, USENET and IRC. Accessing those will work with just about any Thinkpad, no matter how old. Plus there is toot for Mastodon (I need to get that working), but not sure if there is a text utility to access lemmy
I have a Thinkpad which is a bit newer then yours (R51e) with OpenBSD on it. I get by quite well with dillo, links (need to try links2), mutt, tin (USENET) and irssi (IRC). All I did is maxed out memory to 2G. But, I never do banking on the Internet. All I do is need to do is get my pdf bank statement once a month which I use a newer Thinkpad for.
I’m using a 4gb ram Celeron accer C720 from like 2013. Linux. That’s all there is to it. SSD if you have SATA 3, max ram out on it, and Linux the fuck out of it. /thread
