If you’re a big-headed guy or gal at a rationalist puddle cuddle, double check that your rubbers didn’t get punctured.
You know what, maybe Idiocracy won’t be the worst case scenario
Aren’t smaller, better-connected brains more likely to be from an intelligent person? I’m not sure there’s a relationship between intelligence and brain size in general.
Also, huge head does not imply large brain inside the head.
@henfredemars Indeed, it is often associated with hydrocephalus, a condition rarely conducive to cognitive performance.
I have a big head (I needed to pick the bigger helmets when I went gokarting) so yes, there is a huge relationship between IQ and brain size. Don’t mock my chunky noggin please.
uses my superior vision, no caliper needed
That you felt to point out what you think is a mistake shows me you have an inferior skull. You might even have the blood of the worst people (The Dutch, the creators of the infernal word LOL, Colonizing the sea, and Big Brother (potjandorie nog aan toe!)), in you. :P
Our brain shape science basically boils down to:
- missing big pieces usually makes it work less well.
- folds and creases seem good?
- Not too much fluid!
- Not too little either!
- front part seems pretty important for thinking.
- middle too.
- “stuff” in the brain is almost always bad for thinking. Like rocks and things. Neurons, blood and the right blend of fluids are great.
- phrenology is pretty wrong. Like, super wrong.
Beyond that, we know a bunch of stuff about brains and neurons and how they all piece together, but just based on lookin’, we’re pretty bad at judging a person based on their head and brain.
Based on my neurology classes, I feel like we have some idea what some parts of the brain do. Obviously full on experiments would be unethical, but we can like, observe which neural pathways formed in people with the same life style (so Taxi Drivers have larger and more developed sections focused on navigation). We can observe what happens to people who take the same kinds of damage, and occasionally we get lucky and we can see what happens to people with grievous injuries or rare maladies. Also, we can do experiments on creatures like snails which far less complex brains.
The brain is certainly an interesting a weird black box, but we do have outs to learn some things
Oh, totally. We legitimately know tons of stuff about brains, including what most parts are typically used for. We just can’t tell much based on eyeball lookin’, we’ve gotta get in there with FMRI and EEGs.
I’m purely referring to head/brain size or gross physical properties and how they relate to intelligence.
Show a neurologist a photograph of a random brain and ask them to assess the owners intelligence.
The only thing they really have to go on is that if you can photograph someone’s brain, signs aren’t typically looking great for them.
They’ll be making guesses based on vague correlations, and also getting fidgety about what you even mean by intelligence, since that’s also not a simple measure.
Oh, I forgot to mention that we can also do some weird experiments with rats. Teach a bunch of rats how to do a maze, or complete some task, and then surgically remove different bits of each of their brains.
Unless you really mess them up, they usually remember how to do the maze.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5001904/
It’s why missing a chunk won’t make the neurologist definitely say it’s impaired someone’s intelligence.
It’s an extreme case, but definitely indicative of how visual examination is just not great for assessing brain function.
Feels like I’ve heard this rhetoric before…
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The upper bound for how long to pause AI is only a century, because “farming” (artificially selecting) higher-IQ humans could probably create competent IQ 200 safety researchers.
It just takes C-sections to enable huge heads and medical science for other issues that come up.
chaser:
Indeed, the bad associations ppl have with eugenics are from scenarios much less casual than this one
going full “villain in a Venture Bros. episode who makes the Monarch feel good by comparison”:
Sure, I don’t think it’s crazy to claim women would be lining up to screw me in that scenario
Considering that the idea of the singularity of AGI was the exponential function going straight up, I don’t think this persons understands the problem. Lol, LMAO foomed the scorpion.
(Also that is some gross weird eugenics shit).
E: also isn’t IQ a number that gets regraded every now and then with an common upper bound of 160? I know the whole post is more intended as vaguely eugenics aspirational but still.
Anyway, time to start the lucrative field of HighIQHuman safety research. What do we do if the eugenics superhumans goals don’t align with humanity?
Smh, why do I feel like I understand the theology of their dumb cult better than its own adherents? If you believe that one day AI will foom into a 10 trillion IQ super being, then it makes no difference at all whether your ai safety researcher has 200 IQ or spends their days eating rocks like the average LW user.
Oh absolutely! This is the entire delusion collapsing on itself.
Bro, if intelligence is, as the cult claims, fully contained self improvement, --you could never have mattered by definition–. If the system is closed, and you see the point of convergence up ahead… what does it even fucking matter?
This is why Pascal’s wager defeats all forms of maximal utilitarianism. Again, if the system is closed around a set of known alternatives, then yes. It doesn’t matter anymore. You don’t even need intelligence to do this. You can do with sticks and stones by imagining away all the other things.
