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Convicted PEDOPHILE rapist!

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Why do so many headlines leave that part out? I swear like half the headlines don’t feel that needs to be mentioned when it’s really a huge fucking part of the story.

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if you’re genuinely curious: my bet is to avoid lawsuits. mind that people who use the word pedophile colloquially usually mean people who prey on children.

in reality, pedophilia is not a legal term and not a part of the crimes or charges. it’s a psychiatric disorder and in itself not the crime. laws are not concerned with the disorder so long as the person does not act on it.

on the legal side, crimes like statutory rape, child sexual abuse, or whatever it may be, are independent of the disorder and i would imagine a lot of people who engage in it might not have it; as sexual abuse is more often than not about power, not attraction.

so i imagine shit stain perpetrators like this can technically say they’re not pedophiles as they aren’t legally found to be so and sue for defamation. so media sticks to the legal terms.

that being said, even if they don’t use the word, they should mention that the victim was a 12 year old. so instead of pedophile rapist, it can say rapist of 12 year old. afaik that’s legally and technically true and shouldn’t be a legal liability.

disclaimer that these are opinions of a layman, and I’m not a lawyer.

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“child rapist”

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so legally they can call him a nonse

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because he’s probably not a pedophile - I read somewhere that a lot of child rapists aren’t actually pedophiles. But it should say child rapist.

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As a Dutch guy I feel compelled to apologize for our national olypic committee selecting and sending this douche nozzle to Paris.

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He’s still going to be representing the team in the next competition. You guys need to make sure your government knows it’s not ok to send child groomer rapists onto the world stage to represent you. And his teammates seem to be ok with playing aside him again.

“If I can speak for him, after the match we lost, we were disappointed,” Immers said of his teammate Van de Velde. “But we said to each other: ‘Look what we did together. Look how hard we fought with all the attention.’ We stayed together. We cried together off the field and said, ‘OK, let’s just enjoy this moment.’ And we did that. So I’m happy we did it that way.”

Van de Velde and Immers will play together next in the European championships in the Netherlands right after the Olympics, and then the Dutch championships.

Sorry, but this is kind of fucked up. No offense to you personally, but my opinion of the Dutch just took a nosedive.

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You dislike the Dutch now because their system of imprisonment is based on rehabilitation?

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He was imprisoned by the UK, not the Dutch. The Dutch got him out of prison. After a year. For raping a 12-year-old multiple times.

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Nah, I hate them because their government sends known child rapists to other countries.

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Do you think the Dutch prison system taught him not to travel internationally to give 12 year olds liquor so he could rape them? Do you think it did so in under a month?

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He wasn’t even allowed to serve his full sentence and be rehabilitated. He was sent home from the UK after a year and the Dutch released him and claimed him rehabed. Meanwhile he refuses to show remorse, refuses to admit he did anything beyond a “mistake”. Also why didn’t he stay in the Olympics village? Cause there are kids there and he’s a child rapist and his own government knows it. If you’re so sure he’s rehabilitated, go all the way and show us you mean it and let him babysit your kids.

Going to the Olympics is a privilege not a right. You lose certain privileges forever when you rape kids.

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This has nothing to do with the system.

His victim tried to self harm, and now she gets to see him living his best life at the olympics.

Where is the justice to his victim who gets to live a life of mental hell while he gets to be on TV?

There are plenty of things he could be doing with his life other than the olympics and torturing his victim all over again.

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It’s not even about whether he’s rehabilitated. Even if he never even thinks about molesting another kid he should be shunned and criticized and certainly never put on a global stage. Being rehabilitated doesn’t un-rape a kid.

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Fellow embarrassed Dutch guy chiming in.

Edit: why did I get down voted for being an embarrassed Dutch guy? LOL, that’s what we are!

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Lemmy works in mysterious ways. Have an Upvote from me (for what it’s worth).

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Right back atcha, buddy!

Edit: even this was down voted. The Internet is a strange place.

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That right there is more remorse than I’ve seen from the rapist himself…

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Upon his release from prison, Van de Velde told a Dutch newspaper: “I have been branded as a sex monster, as a pedophile. That I am not—really not.”

I dunno, sounds like a ton of remorse /s

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He actually prefers the term ephebophile and identifies as a libertarian.

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Let’s do politicians next.

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Fucking finally. Price of shit rapist. Maybe the Dutch will reform their legal system in-time for the next Olympics?

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Im not sure if any legal system would say a felon cant join the olympics. Unless you mean having draconian punishments like the US. Then no, I hope they dont damage their legal system to become that corrupt.

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He got 13 months for rape and only one of those months was actually their choice the other 12 was the UK government’s choice. Essentially they thought that one month of imprisonment for rape was acceptable.

They clearly need some change.

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What was their reasoning for not punishing the guy? I haven’t heard about that yet. And frankly a year for rape also sounds anomalous

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The Dutch need a metric fuckton of cultural reform. I’m saying this as a descendant of them in Canada.

Blackface is not an acceptable holiday tradition, and marzipan is concentrated evil. Also fuuuuuuuuck rapists, you get nothing, you fucking LOSE, and you goddamn keep losing as an example to any other idiots, good day sir!

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I think having a child rapist not be in the Olympics isn’t draconian. The Dutch sound a little too lax with their “formication” laws

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People seem to be more outraged that a rapist is allowed to play sportsball than rapists being allowed to become president.

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only if booing was able to remove pedophile and rapist politicians from power too

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I mean, using your voice to influence the outcome of politics is kind of how a democracy works. Ideally, at least. But I agree with your sentiment.

Also, for a second I imagined a scenario where voting is done by small groups in booths, booing for the politicians they don’t like and clapping for the ones they like, and then someone would watch the tapes and just count how many people booed and clapped at every politician.

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except a single billionaire has more effect on the outcome of an election than probably hundreds of thousands of normal income citizens

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except a single billionaire has more effect on the outcome of an election than probably hundreds of thousands of normal income citizens voting

FTFY

Start with organizing, protesting, and striking. Continue escalating as needed until they bend to our will. Voting is a compromise that we accepted instead of a revolution.

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