Edit: I’m not saying anything negative about the female side here, just the male one

On one hand, you have fanfics, kpop Stans, fandoms, Sanrio, etc.

On the other you have literally 4chan, literally reddit, circle jerks about muh superior white music genres like metal, modern rock, and being “cultured” by liking suffering porn with socially conscious hip hop, Roman history, WWII history, military obsession, geopolitics obsession, gamer shit with n-words and Japan stuff, some weird shit with obsessing over your body/facial features to be the perfect Eurocentric ideal, etc.

Also shout-outs to pro incest and pedo anime culture

In the words of a friend who agrees: White men just cannot be trusted to be left alone together on the Internet

you’re erasing both the white supremacy of female-dominated english online culture, and the consumerism of male-dominated english online culture

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critical support

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has anyone noticed that women be shopping

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Clearly I’m painting the male side in the negative here, and not the female side

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Have you never heard of femcels before? I mean I know it’s just riffing on male dominated culture, but there is a lot of weird shit floating around chronically online female spaces.

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I don’t know if they’d be consider femcels, but there’s also a contingent of women who’d I compared to MRA/pick up artists. Basically the same entitlement, racism, sexism/classism (against other women and men they deem lower class), etc. Essentially, like the top percentile of the MRA guys, they do get laid and money, but they also hate everyone they come in contact with

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They are not femcels, though there is some shared rhetoric. Femcels are the ‘nice guy’ phenomena, but for women. They essentially believe that men only go for ‘sluts’ (who are almost always described in terms of blackness), and that all the ‘good men’ are already married. That being said, there is a distinct hint more at misogyny than misandry (because, you know, everything gets processed through the overarching lens of patriarchy).

My point isn"t that patriarchy doesn’t exist, it’s that women online will do equally fucked things as men, but again, it is through the lens of patriarchy and white supremacy.

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femcels are nowhere near as large as reddit or 4chan

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They were on Reddit and 4chan.

But really they were ‘all over’ Tumblr when I was there like a decade ago. They certainly aren’t as ubiquitous or as famous as the male variety, so probably not ever as large, and certainly not as large as the male ones are now. My guess is most of them are anti-trans now.

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Fair enough, the anti-trans stuff is pretty ubiquitous in chronically online female spaces now, so idk if it’s ‘gotten better’ so much as ‘changed character’.

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Hence the word “dominated” in my statement

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I feel like calling fanfics consumerism ignores the very weird and subversive aspects of fanfiction that can manifest. Obviously doesn’t always but that combined with the “this is what the female side is” smacks a little too much of the “women are such stupid consumerists XD” mindset people use to shit on “pumpkin spice girls” or just women who buy a thing. I doubt you intended that and I don’t blame you but I hope you’ll consider it in the future

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media/art consumerism is way more likely to be cool than lots of other forms of consumerism imo

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valid

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That’s a big reason why I don’t bother with outside of hexbear anymore. Do you really want to engage with white supremacists?

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Same, even going on redlib just to read a reddit post has got me running back here.

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