Edit: I’m not saying anything negative about the female side here, just the male one

On one hand, you have fanfics, kpop Stans, fandoms, Sanrio, etc.

On the other you have literally 4chan, literally reddit, circle jerks about muh superior white music genres like metal, modern rock, and being “cultured” by liking suffering porn with socially conscious hip hop, Roman history, WWII history, military obsession, geopolitics obsession, gamer shit with n-words and Japan stuff, some weird shit with obsessing over your body/facial features to be the perfect Eurocentric ideal, etc.

Also shout-outs to pro incest and pedo anime culture

In the words of a friend who agrees: White men just cannot be trusted to be left alone together on the Internet

it is the decline of social life from being into having, and having into merely appearing.

it is the obfuscation of the past and the implosion of the future into an undifferentiated mass, a never-ending present.

it is play in they phone, eat hot chip, and lie.

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media/art consumerism is way more likely to be cool than lots of other forms of consumerism imo

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has anyone noticed that women be shopping

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Clearly I’m painting the male side in the negative here, and not the female side

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Sorry, I can get what you’re pointing to with the other things, even if it’s phrased a bit vaguely, but you’re telling me that socially conscious hip hop is associated with chronically online male Anglo white supremacy?

In any case y’know I don’t think you can really be so binary.

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It may be just be me but me and a friend have noticed there seems to be a sort of unique emphasis on poverty porn struggle romanticization that a lot of white people do with hip hop music from black artists that they don’t/do less with artists of other races

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I’m so used to the horrible male dominated side, but honestly I find the consumerist obsessed one incredibly grating. I can’t stand the tone and the completely unquestioning way that people will just spend ridiculous amounts of money on meaningless garbage (swifties and kpop stans especially, literally donating their money to people that are already unimaginably wealthy just so they chart better).

But that consumerist stuff also happens on the male dominated side too, any kind of space that attracts collectors and rich lonely dudes also has that behavior.

Can you expand on how white dudes interact with socially conscious hip hop? I feel like that type of person intersects more with hipster lib internet spaces rather than fascist internet spaces, usually there’s less overlaps with gaming (general gaming at least). I think there still totally are a lot of weird behaviors in that crowd though, and they’re often just as bad as the ones with no self awareness.

Sidenote: Gen Z slang, or just the way chronically online people talk, is sometimes ridiculous and my personal pet peeve. “The existential horror of,” “and that’s just so important to me,” “and I-,” etc. I am not trying to say that the way my generation talks is dumb, I use a lot of the slang all the time and I have no issue with language evolving. But all those phrases add absolutely nothing to the messages they’re attached to, and have just become the new version of millenials saying “adulting” or “heckin chonker.”

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I feel like that type of person intersects more with hipster lib internet spaces rather than fascist internet spaces

I’m using the term white supremacy literally. As in somebody who perceives Western/white culture and people to be superior. They don’t necessarily have to be politically active in pushing their agenda to be a supremacist unlike many fascist spaces

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millenials saying “adulting” or “heckin chonker.”

“heckin chonker” and “doggo” were gen Z/cusp too

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Yeah it’s all one big bucket of lingo that people that are very online use, but I think as it became more self aware it stepped away from the overtly silly ones and more into the trite ones that I associate with Gen Z.

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