This is no honeymoon, the American “left” will never recover from the Harris/Walz combo; every major base of support (demographic/economic) is covered; Black woman with a jovial heartlandish white man standing behind her is the universal password for the legendary “competent American fascism” software update leftists have been prophesying.
They got this shit locked for at least eight years, Walz is suburbanite catnip and Harris has the identity libs eating out her hands, along with big tech, wallstreet, and the zionist lobby who are now methodically eliminating the last holdouts of the post-2016 nascent left movement
There is no credible avenue of leverage here, the libs can effectively respond to any leftist utterance with accusations of racism, misogyny, and purity testing and it will stick. Already we have most liberals being one rhetorical step away from defending Walz unleashing the National Guard on BLM protesters
There is no point in engaging with domestic national politics at this current time, the ball is firmly overseas
The only series of events that can undermine this new DNC paradigm is Israel blowing up the world and the US mobilizing to save it. Not even the collapse of Ukraine can dent it now, since that was “Biden’s project”
Hate to say it, but the DNC won a firm generational victory
idk if I’d go that far, but even the left libs over in €Urope are squealing over this, very happy to keep running their “parties” like social clubs that never fall out of line with liberal consensus or just drop pretensions and retreat into private philistinism of treats and petty power plays over useless soccdem parties
You think this destroys all the labor momentum?
What labor momentum? Union rates are set to fall to single digits this year for the first time ever
The rate was 10.8% in 2020 and this year it’s set to fall to 9.9 or 9.8%
Source? I thought the last few years had been the highest for labor action in decades. Maybe all the gig jobs are just doing too much damage.
The brunch crowd can think whatever smug, self-satisfied thoughts they want, it won’t make conditions deteriorate any less quickly
You miss one important thing. Material conditions will continue to get worse. We are past the point where we can have another Obama pretending everything is just fine while the vast majority can’t afford shit. It’s not 2008 anymore, they can’t pretend the economic shit will get better because people already have 16 years of the opposite.
The damage is done, there is no recovery for them. They will win this election, but people will still be poor and angry, the US economy will still be crumbing and China will continue to improve. Something will have to give.
Agree with the sentiment, but maybe 2008 is a bad example to use for ”the economic shit will get better”
Nono, I meant it’s a good example of it not getting better.
because people already have 16 years of the opposite.
Yeah, I see what you meant now.
I’d also say the optimism of the Obama getting elected era is long gone, but that might be just a me thing, because I see these libs everywhere online acting like it’s still the end of history.
That’s all true, but my point is that their victory will deradicalize people away from leftism and socialism and instead radicalize them toward the competent fascism the DNC now represents even as it makes them poorer, something will give but the potential of a countervailing force emerging domestically has been foreclosed for at least a decade, unless something major happens overseas
I’m pretty much just copinly admiring the engineering quality of the off-ramp the dems built overnight on the highway leading toward worse conditions
I don’t know about that. The things you list going for Kamala and Waltz work electorally, but elections are short and the intervening years are long. Will people give a shit that a #Blackwoman is presiding over the next energy shock? Will folksy Tim win over anybody as Blackrock continues to become the works largest landlord and jacks up rent across the country? Will food inflation and deteriorating health systems go unnoticed because the political leaders can string 4 cogent words together? I doubt it. I think the Democrats have tripped into an electoral win, but as committed neo-liberals they’ll still fall face first over every hurdle of actual governance. Their ideology contains no solutions: everything will get worse and the proles are supposed to be grateful for it. That’s just not a message with staying power.
Yeah and also Harris is more Selina Myers than Obama, I’m not convinced she can even beat Trump, but people will quickly get sick of her if she does. She’s having a burst of support only in relation to replacing Genocide Joe’s doomed campaign
I’m pretty sure a ham sandwich with a bit of mold on the corner could beat Trump. Hillary and Mr Genocide are some of the only people who could lose to him.
As long as they can get away with blaming Republicans or a rotating villain for obstruction the Dems won’t have to do shit. “Progressive” Dems were calling Obama out for not doing things he could get away with like firing people and executive orders and libs were still defending him. Libs happily defended his Grand Bargain where he volunteered to cut Social Security payments. There’s a lot more people radicalized now to be sure, but the Dems still have a pretty good stranglehold on people’s vision of what’s possible.
Will they better or worsen material conditions? Our organising capacity is tied to the system failing and liberals are incapable of addressing systemic failure. Even if Walz attempts to bring his Minnesota reforms to the federal level, the Supreme Court will nix them and the liberals will side with the institution over their own bills. The most unpopular 2020 primary candidate will fall apart just as Biden did when we called it. Liberals in 2028 will be feeling as electorally deflated as they were in 2024.
The democrats will always be bad which is where I break with DSA. There’s no salvaging that party or operating within it or pulling the democrats to the left. Liberals are now just more honest about their politics.
Even if Walz attempts to bring his Minnesoata reforms to the federal level, the Supreme Court will nix them and the liberals will side with the institution over their own bills
This is an important point. The Supreme Court might be the only institution the Republicans control for a few cycles, they’re going to use it to the fullest extent they can.
