Boots need shining, and Dessalines is positively salivating at the thought

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This sounds like a unjustified callout and a bit of an ad hominem. He doesn’t argue against tools for dissent, but specifically against Signal and recommends matrix. link to post

Any communication tool that requires you to personally identify yourself through a phone number and is hosted centrally in the US is not good for dissidents.

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He doesn’t argue against tools for dissent,

He says it’s a ‘smart move’ for the totalitarian countries he simps for to ban signal. It’s not just a question of preference.

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Well maybe his bias is showing there, but Venezuela is in a cold war with the US and it is objectively a smart move from a strategy perspective.

You simply cannot have open and free democracy if a superpower is meddling in your election. If I didn’t know who the dessalines was (I don’t) I wouldn’t especially think he was wrong. Any country that finds itself in opposition with the US is smart to limit or shut down US controlled IT infrastructure.

Of course I wouldn’t be surprised if Venezuela and Russia would ban Matrix and other P2P protocols too.

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You simply cannot have open and free democracy if a superpower is meddling in your election.

I’m pretty sure the concern of Venezuela and Russia is not in having open and free democracy, but preventing it.

Any country that finds itself in opposition with the US is smart to limit or shut down US controlled IT infrastructure.

How convenient, then, that the US controlled IT infrastructure they target is the same IT infrastructure that dissidents use to communicate and that totalitarian governments can’t track. Just a coincidence, I’m sure.

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Venezuela is an authoritarian regime not because the US is “meddling in its elections” but because the current leader is a despot who faked the election results.

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There it is. There is absolutely no evidence that the US is medaling in Venezuelan elections.

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No. He’s a well known Tankie and has a Castro profile picture. So crying about privacy while rooting for autocrats is absolutely laughable.

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Are you suggesting that the US would compel signal to turn data about Venezuelan dissidents over to Maduro?

I mean, there’s maybe a conversation to be had about the wisdom of using Signal in particular, but I really struggle to imagine a justification for banning it anywhere near that conversation. Furthermore, we all know Dessalines is a redfash bootlicker. His intent here is very clearly more cheerleading for said boot

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I agree the callout is unjustified, but there is still something to be said when those countries ban Signal but aren’t banning WhatsApp.

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Shoutput to simplex as another option

Not fully decentralized but you can host your own servers or use whichever ones you want

https://simplex.chat

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Signal was already made to hand over all the data they stored for one account at least in the US, here is a video describing how that went: https://youtu.be/3oPeIbpA5x8

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Tell me though, which company will not hand over what data they have when asked by their country’s judiciary?

The question here is how much data they keep. Strict legal minimum or more.

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You obviously didn’t watch the video, the point made is not that there is information being handed over (every company has to comply with legal orders), but that Singal handed over nothing except 2 timestamps shared as integers.

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Congrats if you can stand more than a minute of this 4chan-esque garbage but I’m not gonna sit through 10 minutes of it while they stretch out getting to the actual point. If you want to bring forth an argument, don’t start with “watch this random ass YouTube video” where I have to sit through some garbage and have to then fact check every potential point made.

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You are correct though, I did indeed not watch it. Hence I misunderstood the comment I was answering to as being negative towards Signal. Thanks for the added context.

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While this is true it’s still good to add nuance.

There is a difference between judiciary and intelligence context in these kind of things, if you use a tool in a judiciary context you burn it (as with the FBI malware on Playpen). So it’s probably better to keep it low, even avoid to use some of the information gathered, so you keep the intelligence source.

I’m not saying that’s what’s going on, just that this is not an absolute proof.

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Yeah, better use Telegram /s

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He continues by saying use matrix

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Banning signal is like saying im about to commit some serious crimes against humanity. Typical tankie shit lords like that however.

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That’s a way to know it’s banned. Zero local coverage, but yes, it doesn’t work without tricks as I’ve tested. That’s said, it’s a nice proof it’s is\was relatively safe to use and popular in said countries and the likes.

Dess may seem smug for promoting mtx over Signal, but it’s one less channel for communication, and they’d try to come for mtx next.

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