Alt text: a destroyed city filled with speach bubbles all saying “stop your bombs” and Kamala Harris in the foreground with “I’m speaking” in large text along the bottom.

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Nice strawman!

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“I’m speaking” are literally her words in refence to pro-palestinian protesters chanting at one of her rallies like 2 days ago.

Edit: her campaign has at no point expressed a desire (let alone a demand) to end arms shipments and military aid to Israel. Nor has she expressed at any point that she intends to demand an immediate ceasefire if elected.

Edit2: clarification

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Yes this is such a disappointment. All we want to hear is her calling and pledging for the stopping of genocide of the Palestine people.

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Continuation of support for genocide.

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Nice Liberal nonsense but it seems you forgot this community is for leftists

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There’s nothing worse for leftism than leftists making bad arguments.

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Please, point out the strawman here. I responded already that “I’m speaking” were Kamela’s exact words in response to recent pro-palestine protesters.

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Calling for the end of genocide is a bad argument? Ok Liberal

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Just say you’re okay with genocide as long as it’s funded by team blue and only affects brown people on the other side of the world. Just say it.

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The point is to change the system, not enable it by continuing down the same road we’ve been on for 50+ years that has led us to this point.

Consider a Palestinian facing constant threat of extinction paid for and produced by the US. The problem is not which right wing party is in charge when the bombs drop, but the decades long imperialism that has been wholistically supported by both dems and repubs. They’re two sides of the same coin, both hoping the people won’t realize that the whole system is designed to prevent any real change.

Also, your assertion that “genocide light” is acceptable violates rules 2 and 5, and I’m removing your comment because we do not allow support for genocidal entities in this community.

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Literally no one wants that.

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The moral of this story is don’t stop protesting. Some liberals are easing up on the Israel/Palestine issue because they believe Kamala will get a ceasefire on favorable terms, but she remains aligned with the status quo and will compromise heavily if she is not pressured by a large constituency on the left. Kamala is more movable on the issue than Biden and that means we need to keep pushing her on it.

There was a more recent rally where she seems to have learned from this mistake and dedicated some time to acknowledging the protestors and calling for a ceasefire before continuing her speech. I think this shows that unlike Biden she sees the protestors as being worth appealing to, and they need to respond to that by making their demands clear and actionable.

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