Fucking THANK YOU. It’s like all the automotive interior designers just hotboxed themselves for a decade with all the unnecessary and less useful touch interfaces and are finally coming back down to earth.
I’m not sure it was the designers but the executives. Touchscreens are insanely cheap compared to buttons and all the wiring involved. Like the main reason that Tesla does everything on a touch screen is that software is soooo much cheaper than hardware.
It’s like everyone collectively forgot about precisely how much effort has been put into physical human interface design over the years. In models from less than a decade ago, Mercedes was calibrating dashboard push buttons to require precisely one Newton of force to actuate… and now we have this “slap the screen in the vicinity of what is maybe a button a few times to maybe get the thing you want to happen”. I know, it’s cheaper, but… come on.
Please explain a non-touch design that allows all following functions: bluetooth pairing, equalizer adjustment, controlling volume of parking sensors, displaying oil levels, tire pressure, breaks wear, and other nice sensors your modern car is equipped with. How about adjusting the heat level of the seat heating? How about disabling mirror auto-adjustment when you shift into reverse?
A modern car needs a touch screen.
It also desperately needs hardware buttons for core features, e.g. volume, AC, lighting.
All these things can be performed with a turning knob, a touch screen is not mandatory in a car
I have a flashlight with like 120 functions and ONE button. You’re fully correct. We do not need touchscreens for everything.
Most of the things you listed can - and have - been done with physical controls at one point or another. It was nice, because you could do it by feel and memory after you got used to your car.
The modern perception of “car” is so, so different from the one I grew up with, and I’m not that old - I learned to drive in the early naughties
My Honda from the transition years has a nice big screen that is touch-capable, but it also has a nice knob in the middle that can spin to scroll through lists, but also rocks up/down/left/right and pushes in for select. When I describe it in text it sounds complicated but it’s really quite intuitive and can be used without looking for all the basics.
I like a hybrid, tbh. My car has a sizeable touchscreen that android auto connects to, and I use it a lot for media and navigation.
But things like climate control have physical buttons. Works really well for me and I like the combination approach.
Yeah I don’t mind the combo as long as the important stuff you interact with regularly is still physical. If I have to go into a menu to change climate controls, you have officially fucked up.
You always must look at a touch screen to press a button. There’s no reason to use a touchscreen interface for anything a driver might want to do while driving.
I have the same gripe with TV remotes.
Dude I have such a hate for the “new” Samsung Smart TV remote. They literally took away all but the BARE essential buttons. And for what ??? Does the remote look cool and sleek now? Maybe? But I can’t fucking use it anymore.
Meanwhile LG is being a chad: they keep all the buttons, but additionally give me a super cool and convenient pointer (LG remote for comparison).
The touchscreen in my 2016 Jeep Renegade is big enough for me to be able to read everything I need to without having to squint, and small enough that I don’t have to stare at it all the way until the button press (I can eyeball it, get my eyes back on the road, and press the screen in the correct spot 95% of the time). Screens like this I like. One’s like those in Tesla’s are criminally unsafe.
The worst I’ve ever seen was needing to interact with the touchscreen to open the glove box. Absolutely ridiculous.
Same with mine. That was something I was looking for when I bought this car actually. I wanted physical buttons and knobs for everything that wasn’t infotainment system related. The steering wheel has buttons to control things like volume and tack/station skipping as well. Even having a physical shifter was a necessity for me because these button or weird electronic shifters are a pain in my ass and can potentially be dangerous if you’re unfamiliar.
Right! The design for climate control and radio adjustments should just be buttons.
The touch screen should be a display for android auto and carplay as it is an addition not a replacement.
Hopefully as economies of scale apply more to evs there will be less justification to cut down on costs in favour of touch screens doing everything.
I drive a car built in 2018 and I’m really happy with the balance between buttons and screen.
I’ve got stalks for indicators, wipers and cruise control. Physical switches for lights, windows, mirrors, climate temp, fan, air source, defrost front and rear, odometer reset, driving mode, master door unlock and opening the boot/tailgate. Vents are manually operated and the glovebox and fuel tank flap are too. The steering wheel has physical buttons for media source, track skip/radio seek, phone calls, starting the voice control mic, and scroll wheels for volume and cycling through information displays on the small screen between the large analogue gauges on the dashboard. And a 10 inch touchscreen for everything else (reverse camera, media and maps, mostly, but includes all the car settings you don’t fiddle with often, like light delays, beep volumes, summer time offset etc.).
Basically anything I’m likely to want to use whilst driving I can find and operate with at most a quick glance, if not by touch alone, and have immediate feedback that I got it right because I felt the switch/stalk/button move under my fingertips as I expected.
I’ve wondered what functions I’d be happy with moving from a physical control to the touchscreen or capacitive button. I haven’t come up with a single one. Yet if I were to buy the latest version of this car just about anything that is currently a physical button is now a capacitive touch button. Yeah, no thanks.
My cat’s touchscreen is broken. It wouldn’t stop registering a constant input from one corner. They told me it would be thousands to fix. Now it’s more broken and won’t accept any input. That makes it actually functional since I can use the buttons and knobs to do things that were being over ridden by the screen input.
Maybe bring it to a vet then? Also, why does your cat have a touchscreen in the first place?
PS: this will look stupid once you correct your post
People who correct their post without leaving a trace of their mistake after someone has already commented on it should be keelhauled and slapped in the face with a dirty trout.
You know he is referring to a 2023 article right?https://slate.com/business/2023/04/cars-buttons-touch-screens-vw-porsche-nissan-hyundai.html
And so is the video.
I really don’t see any improvements lately
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