More info about it here: https://www.ghacks.net/2024/08/13/windows-11-start-menu-is-getting-a-new-layout-to-organize-your-apps/

I love how microsoft never learns their lessons.

193 points

Ugh, fine Microsoft. I’ll finish my migration to Linux this weekend.

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Welcome. We have cake and assorted treats.

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I tried it but stopped once I realised there was no hdr support :(

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There is HDR support. At least Plasma 6 supports it.

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Some games support it on windows but not Linux. The list is small. That said, windows HDR support is garbage ime. I don’t feel like there’s a good option that’s set and forget in any case.

Plasma/wayland integration is coming along but it’s not there yet for HDR in gaming.

I just said screw it and live without it. Forgot i cared after 20min.

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How do you know and learn this stuff? i dont even know what “plasma” is and why you need it.

“Just use linux” doesnt help in this scenario i use it for productivity for the past 5 years but i havent felt ive really learned shit.

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Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. It literally only exists on a single desktop environment and even then it’s practically beta. On my TV it just shows everyhing as green and purple when I enable HDR.

I love linux and want it to keep improving but man people need to stop circlejerking linux so much when it comes to people using windows when it suits their needs

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It’s true that HDR support is virtually non-existent being limited to very recent KDE wayland with bleeding edge everything and AMD hardware. Basically .33 * 0.05 * 0.3 or like 1/2 of 1% of Linux users.

It’s also true that is a weird ass thing to chose a desktop OS for.

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I think gnome have just added support as well

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Someone made a post about enabling HDR support on Linux a day or two ago. Times have changed, and you might want to look into it again.

(I don’t have HDR monitors, but it works on my OLED Steam Deck.)

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The Steam Deck is an exception to the rule, unfortunately. Game mode runs using Gamescope as the compositor, which allows it to directly manage rendering surfaces and support HDR output.

Support for HDR under a regular DE is still either nonexistent or a work-in-progress last I checked.

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10 points

Was this a call for help or…?

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It takes some fiddling, but I’ve been using HDR on Linux since Plasma 6 came out. If you don’t have an AMD GPU it would probably be really difficult to set up though.

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I use Wayland/Plasma6 with a 6800xt and it just works out of the box (OpenSuse TW)

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Depends on your desktop environment. HDR works just fine in KDE.

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Can’t miss what I’ve never had, suppose I’m lucky there - HDR might as well not exist (in my mind) until it does exist on GNU+Linux.

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It gives a nice visual pop but in terms of playing, there’s no edge to it over standard.

Also it does exist but implementation is defined by the program which usually is only set up for the windows implementation. So you can wine the windows version of the program if you want it. I’m sure proton will figure something out soon.

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Unpopular opinion: HDR is overrated and causes more eye fatigue.

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I guess it really is an unpopular opion. Lol. I have have eye fatigue issues with HDR too, though.

I also can’t watch 3D for more than 5 minutes without getting a migraine. I don’t know enough about how the display works to know why. Both feel like it is trying to fool my eyes and my brain doesn’t like it. Maybe my eyes/brain get fatigued trying to play along. Some types of HDR seem to bother me more than others. I can watch an HDR movie mostly fine.

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130 points

With more room for ads, I hope?!

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i assume that’s what the sidebar is for

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21 points

The sidebar looks like it’s dedicated to phone access?

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17 points

it is, that was just me trying to be funny

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14 points

"Why are you using Firefox? Didn’t you know edge is better?

Are you sure you don’t want to try edge?

I’ll fuckin murder you if you don’t launch edge right now. "

-windows these days.

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ha, oh look another revision no one asked for.

i had to use this recently, and its all kinds of useless now. the ‘search’ didnt find my installed app, the ‘all apps’ list is a click or two in, and then absurdly inefficiently styled… the win98 start menu was easier for me to navigate.

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Nobody asks for mayor UI changes, nothing would change if you wait for that.

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2 points

sometimes things that are not broken need no fixing…

unless youre some middle management pos attempting to make your mark in a terrible corporate environment

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Caves are perfect, why change anything?

We have always done it like this!

All terrible arguments.

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55 points

Every update with these new UI changes seems to increase empty wasted space each time

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28 points

And create more steps to get places.

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10 points

how else are they supposed to get you to use their AI for everything

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55 points

I love how modern UI = eating up as much space as possible, while displaying as little information as possible. Glad I can watch this shitshow from afar.

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It’s hard to even take Windows seriously as a business OS when they’re shoving this overly padded UI down everyone’s throats. Windows 10 supported small task bars, among many other things that Windows 11 doesn’t. There seems to be a lot of really tone deaf people at Microsoft working in silos, not really aware of the features people care about in their own product.

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I doubt it will happen, but I’m hoping that windows 12 will make windows a more reasonable operating system.

Can’t wait until my work will be able to be done 100% on Linux.

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