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I wish there’s more Mozilla forks.

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Icefox I’ve heard about and LIbrewolf I use actively.

The latter has frustrations with Video Downloadheper. IDK WTF to do to make it work. Sticks me to fucking Firefox to rip. Icefox recommender said it should work with VDH but they don’t really know and I ain’t had a chance to work with it.

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Have you asked the Video Download helper team? I had an issue before where it wasn’t picking up a media after an update and asked them and they fixed it by the next update. They’re really good with support.

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I can’t figure out how to post on github yet. I have little time that isn’t bothered with other things first. I’m missing a bunch of shit I already stole from yt but keeps getting fried cuz im lazy and don’t book it to my vault

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15 points

Floorp, Waterfox, Mercury, Librewolf, Tor (if that even counts)

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170 points

Firefox FTW!

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Yes, but only begrudgingly.

(edit) oh no, I’ve said something bad about the lesser evil, and the people who have made it their identity to violently cum all over the first thing that isn’t owned by Google are after me. I hope the pipe bomb hitman is at least polite.

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101 points

Nah, Firefox is way better.

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I just wish Firefox updates weren’t so intrusive. Having it hit me with “Firefox updated in the background, restart to continue using Firefox” while I’m trying to use QuickBooks for my job is so disruptive when QuickBooks doesn’t save automatically and never opens back up to where I left it off. I won’t go back to Chrome, but I never had it pull that sort of forced restart on me.

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I wish this blanket statement were true. Firefox is better in some respects, but surely not all. Tab and session management - just to name two examples - are just handled better by the Chromium crowd, as much as it pains me to say that.

That said, I still use Firefox in most cases.

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8 points

Different profiles on Firefox are nowhere near Chrome.

I’m still going to use FF, but there are areas it lags behind Chrome. That’s the only big one for me.

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2 points

Same… I know it’s better and worth supporting, I just don’t like using it for some reason.

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Back in the day, Firefox was literally not as good as Chrome. I personally think that has reversed and it’s now much better than Chrome. Leagues better, now that Chrome is banning UBlock Origin. I do wish we had more competition than just Chrome, Safari, and Firefox though…

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I’m an advocate for Firefox, but it is slowly, slowly entering enshittification.

The addition of AI, dark patterns to enable “sponsored bookmarks” upon reinstall, ads (albeit subtle) when using the address bar for search…

All of these can be disabled, some easily, some with feature flags.

Sure the enshittification isn’t anywhere near the pace as Chrome but it’s happening. And again, this is coming from a maybe 10 year financial donor to Mozilla.

Firefox is better than Chrome, no question but there is an opportunity for a new browser to challenge the field.

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43 points

LibreWolf

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Is there anything better about LibreWolf that can’t be achieved by altering Firefox settings?

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It ships preconfigured without invading your privacy (like Firefox does). Just look up a comparison online.

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I guess, this is most of the changes they do: https://librewolf.net/docs/features/

There’s maybe a handful where I’m not sure, if you can do them via settings.
One where it’s technically the case, is that they remove Pocket at compile time. But to my knowledge, Pocket integration is pretty much a glorified bookmark. There’s not much code to remove. And it can be disabled via about:config by setting extensions.pocket.enabled to false.

I guess, to be fair to LibreWolf, Mozilla has been helping out the Tor Browser devs since forever, so most things needed for Tor Browser are just a toggle in the Firefox settings.
As a result, though, there’s also lots of settings, which partially need expert knowledge. So, there is definitely room for different presets. But yeah, still leaves the question, whether one really needs a different executable to adjust these settings.

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10 points

I have high hopes for ladybird

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Why will people use literally anything but Firefox?

Edit: good points.

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Because Firefox isn’t perfect either, to say the least. It has problems, which it had for many years and it’s just counting.

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8 points

Because Google has made significant contributions to Mozilla

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1 point

You know you can check what a software is before you download it, right?

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Yeah I wish Vivaldi wasn’t Chromium-based, because I love all the bells and whistles of Vivaldi so much. But like, at the end of the day it’s still partly contributing to the Chromium dominance of the web, so I still have to default to Firefox as my primary.

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100% Vivaldi is my favorite browser, I only use it as backup though because I’m not using Chromium if I can help it

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5 points

Exactly my sentiment

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Sentiment shared.

I went from Firefox, to Chrome (came as default, didn’t swap because browser was fine), to Vivaldi which was really neat when I started learning Chrome was going to become suck, then back to good old Firefox when I learned that Vivaldi is Chromium.

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Same sentiment here. Coming from Opera (in the days it had its own engine) and having been using Vivaldi as my daily since its first public preview, native mouse gestures is the thing I miss the most from Firefox.

I know that the folks at Vivaldi are pretty strongly against the manifest v3 thing, but seems like at one point they’ll have to fold.

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I miss old Opera. I want it back

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