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171 points

I keep banging on about how hiring practices need to be reformed, and stopping this shit should be the first thing on the agenda

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There is no agenda for the benefit of working people.

Corpos do this on purpose to tired out the wage slaves with bull shit.

Best we can do is to educate ourselves and avoid these idiotic games.

Middle levels and senior people can start doing this today.

Entry level, well young people act like this is the first time this has happened in history but I can tell you that entry level has been bloodbath since early 1990s.

But once you get some grip, start acting like you respect yourself

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If we elect the right people we can make it the agenda. That’s a big ask yes, but it’s also why they don’t want us to vote.

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If people keep voting two party regime or don’t vote, the owners don’t care.

Voting third party as protest vote is where it is at IMHO so maybe in 20 years there is a third option

Ain’t American democracy grand?

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55 points

Start by paying interviewees the wage of the job posted for their time interviewing and doing “tests”

These fuckers spend bajillions on HR software and HR execs, surely they can figure out how to hire quality candidates at a more efficient clip?

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HR is the reverse union… Yet NPCs will accept the parasite but screach at an idea of bargaining power 🤡

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It may seem counterproductive for recruiters to advertise ghost jobs, theoretically wasting their own time as well as that of applicants—but there are incentives for doing so. About 38% say they post fake positions to maintain a presence on job boards when they aren’t hiring, 36% do so to assess the effectiveness of their job descriptions, 26% want to build a talent pool for the future, 26% hope gain insight into the job market and competitors, and 25% want to assess how difficult it would be to replace certain employees, according to the report. Escalera points out that a big reason for posting these jobs is recruiters wanting to improve their business’ image—nearly a quarter also say that fake jobs help their companies look as if they aren’t experiencing a hiring freeze, and one fifth say they post ghost jobs to improve the reputation of their company.

Way to validate our feelings about you, recruiters.

Edit: I’d like to see legislation that goes after “truth in advertising” in this area. This should be illegal. It wastes peoples’ time.

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Thanks for excerpting the main points, appreciated.

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Recruiters are the equivalent of used car salesperson.

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At least used car salespeople will actually sell you the car. Apparently recruiters will just lie about ever even having one.

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Lol when a used car salesman is fired for being too dishonest, he becomes a recruiter as a fallback.

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Those numbers add up to 151%

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They’re independent stats. You can both assess the effectiveness of your job descriptions and see how difficult it would be to replace certain employees.

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64 points

The HR profession’s reputation as pond scum remains intact.

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49 points

Should be illegal

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Legal vs illegal when it comes to business is a forgone conclusion. Enforceable vs unenforceable should be the main focus. If you pass 100 laws and none of them are enforced on the entities that caused the legislation, you are only punching down.

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Then the enforcement squad should be vigilantism towards the recruiters, no ?

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The way we are going, that’s how it will have to handled.

Bad faith actors will be punished by the mob because the state refuses to do its job.

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I have job hopped 3 times in the last 2 years, increasing my salary by over 25% each time. My secret? Recruiters. I don’t know if I’m just in a high demand field, but I just keep my LinkedIn profile set to “looking for work” and every couple of weeks I’ll get a new recruiter reaching out. I always respond and see what they’re offering. Sure, 9/10 times it’s not better, but at least I can use them to sharpen my resume/interviews skills. But then there’s always that 1/10 where it’s like “wait, you’re offering HOW much?!”

I never plan on leaving, but damn, am I just supposed to ignore an offer with a huge pay increase?

The best time to look for a new job is when you already have one. If you have a job, set your profile to open and keep an ear to the ground. Let the recruiters work for you. You’ll never know what will come your way.

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Linkedin is the only worthwhile social media. Just ignore the feed and just use it to connect with recruiters.

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8 points

Similar for me, but just 2 times in 8 years. Including internal promotions at those jobs, I increased my salary by more than 3x.

It costs literally nothing to just be open for incoming contact requests.

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At what point do they tell you what salary they’re offering?

Does your field require extensive tests/interview process prior to being hired?

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Yea salary is usually discussed after the tests/interview. I do them anyways to keep my skills sharp.

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that sounds soul crushing

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