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I get the appeal of Trump. I don’t like it and can’t fathom being the kind of person who would vote for him, but I understand why people vote for him.
I don’t get Kennedy at all. Is it purely Q people still thinking he is the next savior or some shit?
Kennedy has been a Democrat most of his life. He helped Obama & supported Hillary. He’s definitely done some weird things, but most Democrats would have called him an ally up until his presidential run. Trump has always been a con man. If you get why people support Trump more than why they’d support Kennedy, then I’d say that says more about you than him.
He’s definitely done some weird things, but most Democrats would have called him an ally up until his presidential run.
Bullshit. He was vocally antivax. People who didn’t know that before sure found out during COVID.
Also, people consider someone less of an ally when they find out about things like the dead bear and the brain worms.
Weird… why did the Biden campaign enlist Robert De Niro to help with events? Does that mean Biden was antivax, and that Kamala said she loves an antivaxer during the first day of the DNC convention?
Also… leaving a dead bear that someone hit with their vehicle in a park is messed up, but sending weapons to a country that has killed 30k+ women & children is normal?
Last, you do realize brain worms is like a serious medical condition? Like… should Democrats now platform on being disabled or a paraplegic disbars them from being an ally?
He has a body count. He used his celebrity to get the MMR vax paused in Samoa and kids died from a measles outbreak. It turned out the kids who’d died after getting vaxxed were poisoned by poorly-prepared vaxes rather than the vax itself. He takes no responsibility for this.
Person you are replying to may be referring to decades ago. I think the country’s brain broke in the last decade
Since he went all in on antivax and conspiracy stuff, Dems have known he’s a weird/crazy dude. Which is a damn shame, as pre-brain worms, he was a kick-ass environmental lawyer. Dude is clearly not all there and hasn’t been for decades.
He attended the vaccination safety events Robert De Niro… who the Biden campaign then enlisted. I’m not saying he’s right by any means. I think it is fine to question vaccine safety, especially when big pharma has so much influence in politics, but obviously he’s made statements that were far too extreme without supporting medical evidence.
Regardless… Christians believing in make believe stuff that would normally be considered mental illness is as conspiracy-based to me as RFK Jr, so by all means if you think that saying crazy shit means you can never be an ally… then I guess you’ve never ran for state government.
It’s about hurting the people you want to be hurt: sluts, illegals (but only from countries you don’t like), black people, liberals, gays, etc. There is so much hatred and fear and animosity built up over years of listening to Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, and he is the person voicing all their pent up emotions. He makes it OK to be the assholes they have not felt comfortable being before.
It’s not necessarily that he is their ideal person (though for some people a giant blowhard asshole is), it’s that he furthers their agenda. He packs the courts, lowers taxes, punishes the correct people, fights communism.
I get why Kamala wouldn’t want him in the administration, but did she even consider it? Like… his housing policy wasn’t bad. Let’s say he brought 3% more voters. That could have been significant. 3% could definitely help beat Kamala with a race this close. I don’t like the guy… and honestly, despite it not being his fault I just can’t stand listening to him speak. I’m wondering now if Trump is actually going to kick JD to the curb.
He potentially could’ve caused LOST votes if she took him in. He is very unpopular.
They are nakedly admitting that they will drop out because they are inexplicably pulling more GOP votes than DNC votes.
There’s two options that we’re looking at,” she said. “One is staying in, forming that new party; but we run the risk of a Kamala Harris and Walz presidency because we draw votes from Trump. We draw, somehow, more votes from Trump.
“Or we walk away right now and join forces with Donald Trump; and we walk away from that and we explain to our base why we’re making this decision… Not an easy decision.”
The fact that they were very clearly running to spoil Dems is a good reason not to offer them powerful positions in a Harris admin.
3% is basically the lizardman constant. You can’t assume that voters will so readily jump from one candidate to the other.
No shit, he literally went to Trump and then Kamala with an offer to “give me a job and I’ll drop out and endorse you”, both of which said no. This is so pathetic and embarrassing for him and for the entire nation.
I don’t think anyone stupid enough to vote for RFK could find the door out of their house to actually get to a polling booth. The net effect will be zero.
My coworker is relatively book smart individual. Bought his first house last week at 25, just got married to a dental hygenist. Etc. Politics came up the other day and I was like fuck, I’m about to out myself as liberal at my VERY conservative company. He said that he’s not voting for Trump and doesn’t want him to win. I was floored, and very enthusiastically started talking about how excited I was for walz. He looks me in the eye and starts going off about rfk Jr and how he’s our best option. My view of this this kid instantly changed and I view him as rather dumb now. Cause in reality, he is. Sucks that political bs has divided us so much but anyone dumb enough to vote for Trump let alone fucking rfk is just so God damn stupid and that’s facts
You should check out leftism and see if you like it better than liberalism. This comment is not about voting, I just don’t like liberalism.
I don’t know much about the differences between leftism and liberalism. Why don’t you like liberalism?
My view of this this kid instantly changed and I view him as rather dumb now. Cause in reality, he is.
You’re in a conservative area, you’ve found a guy that’s anti-Trump, and you’re shocked to discover he’s a no-sell on Democrats?
Come on, man. That’s got nothing to do with intelligence. It’s just priors. If someone is sold on Democrats being corrupt, sleazy, dishonest, and cruel, why do you think “Trump bad tho” would be enough to win them over?
RFK is just the Other Other Guy. And if you listen to enough Rogan or other indie brand talk radio, you can find plenty of hype around him on those issues the other parties don’t really touch but enjoy a strong base of support (drug legalization, funding cuts to the Pentagon/CIA/etc, debt relief, anti-monopolization).
It doesn’t matter that RFK is, himself, a clown. He’s saying things the other two aren’t, and that’s what this guy’s hearing.
At least he’s dumb enough to not understand how, in this fucked up system we’ve got here, voting for a third party is like not voting at all.
Most third party voters are people who wouldn’t be voting if there wasn’t a third choice on the ballot.
Stronger independent parties tend to correlate with higher election participation, even when they don’t win.
People shit on Perot and Nader, but these guys goosed turnout in what would have been very flat election years.
RFK can appear very appealing if you don’t look hard enough. Sit him down to watch the John Oliver segment and see what he thinks then. If he’s a rational person, he might see the error of his ways.
My brother is all over this stuff. He seems to be attractive to those who believe the both sides are bad narrative.
Maybe it’s “I’ve discovered what the rest of people are too dumb to realize” kind of mentality.
