I think for me it’s retro games, specifically. I used to have been in the used video games market for 5 years from 2008 to 2012. My goal was to construct a personal video game collection, physical copies of games I personally enjoyed growing up.
I was registered on a game trading site which served as the base of my business, I’ve made rounds of thrift store hopping and any used games market I could find locally. I’ve struck amazingly good deals and I might’ve had luck on my side a few times (for example, a guy on that game trading site gave me a free copy of Super Metroid that I got to choose for a minor mistake he felt he needed to honor.)
And I felt like I was incredibly close to completing my personal collection until 2012, I ran into some dumb drama with my sister and ex girlfriend back then. They racked up the cable bill in my name that I was trying to cancel and they wouldn’t let me cancel it until I turned in all equipment. And I was jobless at the time too, having lost my job. So I needed to sell some things and sure enough, had to sacrifice my entire collection at the time that I spent 5 long years building.
I never recovered since and this was during the golden period where it was still fairly fun to collect and everybody wasn’t pretending to be a pawn shop.
I would try continuing what collection of games I’ve tried to build, through Steam but it wasn’t the same. Nowadays, the used video games market has turned into just a platform full of resellers, pawn brokers and stingy greedy collectors.
I find it very cheapening that people treat games like they’re just tools of trade. They mean nothing and they’re treated like nothing except to make a quick buck, however possible.
It’s only worsened thanks to Goodwill and similar thrift stores, getting in on it where everyone pays too much attention as to what the prices go for on EBay and VGPC.
And we have WATA involved that hasn’t made things better. Thanks for shitting on an honest hobby, assholes.
Also games and console collecting for me. Just not fun with today’s prices. I guess on the upside my collection is now worth way more than what I paid for it. Not that I’m planning to sell.
Everyone’s collections is suddenly worth way more because of the devious amounts of pumping and dumping by heritage auctions and people operating on a pawn broker mindset. That’s who ruined an honest hobby.
I wanted my collection so that I can have things to turn to and play, but have physical copies of. There were very few times I got games so I could flip them, but only if it meant more money to have on the bargaining table to get what I truly wanted. I’ve gotten a copy of Pokemon Stadium 2 sealed in 2010. I tried selling it for $95, but not sure what the final price of it really went for. Might’ve been a tad lower.
I mean, that’s just how you did business if it means getting what you want. These days, everyone is constantly flipping and skyrocketing values to unrealistic levels “for fun” or profit than just caring about what they’ve got at all.
Collectibles always turn into a money making / investment opportunity for people. Like with Magic the gathering and the whole reprint vs reserved list debacle. That was solely created to “protect those who were investing”
It kind of sounds like OP morphed from hobbyist to investor, then lost interest when his investment lost value.
There’s a lot of hobbies that offer a path to professional, and I’ve watched friends go down that path. It’s rarely a good experience - there’s all kind of things you have to do as a professional to make a living that you can blow off as a hobbyist/volunteer. There’s a lot more stress when success or failure is tied to whether you eat or not. You lose a lot of freedom to tell dickheads to fuck off.
Never been into collectibles, myself, but the investment pressure seems insidious. Like, it’s one thing to trade cards among friends because you got doubles of something your buddy’s missing, but buying a rare card because it’s “underpriced” to hold until its price recovers is very different. The money is pressure to change from looking at your collection as good, fun, or complete and to looking at its presumptive cash value. Then you’ve stopped being a collector and started being a businessman.
You should take a look at game prices for anything older than PS2/GameCube (and even some games from that era are obscenely expensive). For a long time, LSD: Dream Emulator was one of the most expensive games you could get at around $200 for a pristine copy. Nowadays, there are a ton of games that are >$200 for a junk, beat-up copy. The price skyrocketed thanks to WATA/Heritage Auctions doing a lot of suspected pump and dumping that, as a couple examples, got an LoZ copy sold for nearly $900,000 and a copy of Super Mario Bros sold for nearly $700,000. Afaik the only known copy Chu-Teng didn’t sell for that much, and that was considered to be lost media.
Even if all you want is to have a copy of Banjo-Kazooie then have fun forking over $20ish for a loose cartridge or >$100 if you want the box and manual. That’s not how it used to be. Used to be that you could get a loose cartridge for like, $2 in a bundle of 10 of them.
Fuck WATA.
Edit: this also applies to old computers. Remember when you could get a beige CRT by the side of the road for free? Have fun paying >$50 for a shitty CRT, >$200 for a decent one, and >$1000 for a good one. It’s not just CRTs either; basically anything to do with old PCs is becoming obscenely expensive as well.
For the CRTs at least that makes sense, because they used to be mass manufactured, everybody had one, and then new tech came out so nobody wanted them anymore. They threw them out or sold them for cheap. Now that that glut of CRTs has cleared out, they’re probably relatively rare, and people aren’t manufacturing much of them anymore.
I think that probably applies to lots of things.
I didn’t know making a personal collection constituted as being an ‘investor’. Learn something new everyday. /s
I mean it’s in the word - personal. When you’re making personal collections, you aren’t in it for the money or what ways you can flip what you get for an investment.
Making huge leaps of assumption, you are. Christ.
Magic has been awful since around the time they started doing master collection things. I don’t even know what it’s called. Masterpiece artifacts was the first one. If I had to point to a specific turning point. I don’t even play anymore but holy hell there’s like a billion forms of every card in each set now. It used to just be a normal a foil (premium). Now it feels like there are 8 forms of each card.
I think plants are a little less cool now that cloning is so easy and prevalent. It’s great you can get anything for cheap now, but it does make things feel less special to me. More trivial.
If I’m honest, video games and computers in general. The community has some to do with it, I guess, but more because the people making them just seem to not care about the customers at all anymore.
If I had to put my feeling into words, its that they try to make things at the smallest possible cost with the highest return possible, including throwing ads into everything (making for a poorer experience for the users), while simultaneously making everything bland so they can appeal to everyone.
Ten years ago, I loved video games, and now the only “next-gen” console I have is a Switch and a Steam Deck. I used to be a huge Windows fan, but now I can hardly stomach Windows 11, and run Linux exclusively as much as possible.
Big tech ruined tech. Big video games ruined video games.
I enjoy video games, but it’s maybe two or three games a year I really enjoy and play the hell out of. Days Gone and BG3 are the only ones I’ve enjoyed since Jedi: Survivor. I’ve played the hell out of DG because when I didn’t have anything else to do I’d just replay it again. I thought the writing and acting was really good and it’s almost like rewatching a favorite movie.
I did finally pick up GTA5 (I often buy older games that were well received but I didn’t have interest in paying full price when they came out) and it’s good, but it hasn’t gripped me and I’ve just kinda stopped playing. Currently I just spend that time scrolling my phone. I don’t think there are any games on my radar I’m interested in buying in the future. But that’s fine I don’t want to anticipate a game and be disappointed.
There’s some new Star Wars game coming out and I fucking love Star Wars, but they said the word DLC and I’m already not interested. If a game requires PS+, I already know I won’t like it—a lesson leaned from Diablo 4, which I really wanted to love but really don’t.
I also only have Linux. My last windows system got left out in the rain on my deck and that was that. But that’s okay because I love to tinker and play with stuff and Linux is great for personal dev projects.
I feel this. I grew up in the '90s so tech was totally my thing. I couldn’t find work in my chosen field (journalism, graduated in 2008… yeah) so I reschooled myself to sysadmin. At the start I was so excited to learn all the tech stacks and possibilities.
Nowadays, it’s just an endless queue of tickets with Microsoft Azure, AWS or Fujitsu. You don’t actually own any of your infrastructure, and in case of serious disaster your hands are practically tied. Every “new” feature that comes out is more hassle and problems than it ever solves, and every single fucking security update breaks something, somewhere.
All in all, I’m ready to turn in my cellphone, pc and laptop and go live in a forest, happy if I never have to touch anything electronic ever again.
Try to remember that price and value are not the same thing and that people value things differently.
Also, markets will exploit and commodify anything they can. It’s hard to have a passion which is completely unpolluted by this, unless you can find one so niche that it goes unnoticed.
