Reddit third-party client ban closed user messages behind paywall. I think we the Lemmitors should stop AI training on us or at least monetise it (for our instances)

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Some tech bro dipshit getting big mad cause his model now speaks Standard Maoist English would be really funny though

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I imagine this:

Prompt: write a business idea

Answer: Lenin vodka class struggle

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Sadly, you cannot. If you have a platform that’s open for everyone to participate in, that includes bad actors.

You could attempt to mitigate this by having communities filled with bots just creating LLM content, so when they scrape the data they can’t tell if it’s human or not. And that would hurt their data set

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It would be just a matter of time before they can distinguish between good and bad data; there are already AI that can do just that. I’d like to do something like that on GitHub though:P

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It’s kind of moot. If you have the capability of distinguishing good and bad training data, you no longer need your training data.

And quite frankly we would be at general AI levels of technology, it’ll come eventually, but not for a while, a good long while

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You can’t stop them. Publicly available data can and will be a training source for LLMs.

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And the only way to avoid them at all is to de-centralize and make things invite-only.

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be socialists and make any machine learning models trained on us unpalatable to investors

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It’s not really something we can do, sadly. Reddit closing it’s API was more about getting money than actually stopping it’s use as a training set.

Having an allow-list is a start though, as it means that a company can’t just make an instance and suck all the data out through that. Common corporate crawlers could be added to the robots.txt, but that would mean that you might not be able to find lemmy instances in search results. We could make it against ToS, but what are we going to do, sue the massive corporation? They have plenty of lawyer and payout money, so very little would fundamentally change.

Ultimately, if content can be served to us, it can be served to them.

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