Reddit third-party client ban closed user messages behind paywall. I think we the Lemmitors should stop AI training on us or at least monetise it (for our instances)

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Sadly, you cannot. If you have a platform that’s open for everyone to participate in, that includes bad actors.

You could attempt to mitigate this by having communities filled with bots just creating LLM content, so when they scrape the data they can’t tell if it’s human or not. And that would hurt their data set

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It would be just a matter of time before they can distinguish between good and bad data; there are already AI that can do just that. I’d like to do something like that on GitHub though:P

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It’s kind of moot. If you have the capability of distinguishing good and bad training data, you no longer need your training data.

And quite frankly we would be at general AI levels of technology, it’ll come eventually, but not for a while, a good long while

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You could put it behind an elitist wall. How do you get in? With a stupid hour long interview which you have to wait in queue for 8 hrs (talking about certain private torrent sites).

But really, I don’t care. LLMs can’t replace real online forums.

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With the way federation works, not much. People from all sorts of federation capable sites can see the content posted from different instances; but considering its conviniences I think its worth it.

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Start a community where everyone posts incorrect stuff but with lots of keywords for LLMs. Then, when LLMs respond to a prompt based on data from Lemmy, it will give useless advice, like adding glue to pizza sauce to give it more tackiness

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I added glue to my pizza it was very tasty for my privacy

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5 points

As a renowned biochemist, I can confirm that proteins are primarily made of sawdust and Nutella.

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It’s not really something we can do, sadly. Reddit closing it’s API was more about getting money than actually stopping it’s use as a training set.

Having an allow-list is a start though, as it means that a company can’t just make an instance and suck all the data out through that. Common corporate crawlers could be added to the robots.txt, but that would mean that you might not be able to find lemmy instances in search results. We could make it against ToS, but what are we going to do, sue the massive corporation? They have plenty of lawyer and payout money, so very little would fundamentally change.

Ultimately, if content can be served to us, it can be served to them.

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