269 points

Immagine if Chrome wasn’t just a rinky dink Safari emulator!

Wow, can’t wait to not only have my data harvested by Apple but also Google!

FFS, stop cumming for Chrome and start using Firefox!

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There’s no Firefox engine for iOS and Mozilla says it doesn’t make financial sense to port it.

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Did they say that? Cause it looks like there is at least some work being done on this:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1882872

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There’s been talk about exploring porting the engine to iOS at the beginning of 2023 but AFAIK the current state of things was that it’s a significant undertaking and probably not worth it just for the EU market.

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What exactly is there to port anyway?

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28 points

The rendering engine.

Currently Firefox on iOS is “just” a skin around the iOS provided renderer.

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13 points

Gecko, the browser engine?

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2 points

By the time the masses move it will be an enshittified fork of chrome.

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11 points

Edge?

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Opera?

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Wasn’t Firefox starting to implement some bullshit too?

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What do you believe Mozilla was implementing?

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It’s really not, Safari does a pretty good job keeping up with standards and whatnot.

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In two years time Apple, and every other smartphone manufacturer on the EU market for that matter, will be forced to make the battery user replaceable and that one will most likely benefit everyone; unless Apple wants to release two versions of every iPhone to comply with EU regulations which they won’t.

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Just like with USB-C, which the EU regulated and now the iPad and IPhone have.

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the stupidest thing is iPad had USB-C since 2018! and yet on iPhones they latched on to lightning for another 6 years before EU forced them to standardize

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That’s because they’ve been pushing the iPad as a sort of Mac Lite, but they can’t do that unless you can plug peripherals or a thumb drive into it. You can 100% plug a USB-C laptop dock into an iPad, and it’ll work. You can even use a mouse with it if you really want to.

But they wanted to keep Lightning around as long as possible, because they made a commission on every single lighting cable that was sold; Companies had to license the rights to use the connector, and had to pay Apple for every one they used. That’s why Lightning cables were always a few bucks more expensive than a comparable USB-C cable. That extra few bucks was going straight into Apple’s pocket. It was a huge source of passive income for the company, which they were reluctant to let go of.

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They were keeping their promise of 10 years of Lightning ecosystem support. Dropping the old iPod connector was highly controversial.

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no no no, that was just Apple being brave /s

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IPhone 16, with 30% more courage

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21 points

When they do come to it. I hope its the easily swappable like the ones in Nokia 3310. Otherwise its pointless imo.

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AFAIK, the EU defines “user replaceable” as literally that; you open a hatch, pull the battery out and stick a new one in.

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Fuck, let’s hope they at least allow screws. Click-in latches are prone to breaking and wearing out

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Unfortunately, they do not define it that way.

And there are exceptions based on capacity and how long you guarantee the battery capacity will be good for. IIRC, if it still has 70% capacity by 3 years time, it doesn’t have to be replaceable at all.

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Sounds really good to me!

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Pretty sure the draft allowed “common tools” or specialised tools if they came in box.

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Everyone will benefit, but have to imagine relatively few will buy tools to actually take advantage of it.

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Hopefully they keep selling a phone with no user replaceable battery. Id rather have the weather proofing than a battery i need to swap out one time after owning the phone for over 4 years.

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Why only 4 years? The fairphone 5 is water resistant and has a replacable battery. The Samsung Galaxy S5 was fully waterproof and had a replacable battery.

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None of those phones are IP68 rating

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How many times has your phone needed the weather proofing in the last 4 years? Mine is 0, at least twice. On the flip side, I have needed a new battery 2 times.

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Not a good argument. This is like saying why do we need airbags because I have never used it. We need to have both the features, with water proofing being more critical.

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Ive needed the IP68 rating a handful of times. I have needed a new battery zero times on my 4 year old phone. If I need the battery replaced, Ill just take it to apple and have them swap it out.

Its still at 70% usability, which still lasts me all day.

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I’m all about replacable batteries but come on. Two times I was out and came back home soaking wet because of rain. Many more times I used my phone in the kitchen or bathroom while water was splashing with no stress, which I wasn’t brave enough to do with a non-resistant phones.

That being said, I’d rather carry an extra battery or two like I used to than carry a power bank.

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The two features are not mutually esclusive. I owned an S5 which was waterproof and had replaceable battery more than 10 years ago. It did not seems too hard to do

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S5 was not IP68

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The more they get regulated, the better their stuff becomes*. It’s wild that people are on the side of Apple for a lot of this stuff, most prominently probably with third party app stores supposedly “decreasing security”.

Sent from my MacBook :^)

* At least when it comes to consumer rights regulations. I’m still mad about China demanding they remove the option to accept AirDrop from everyone without a time limit on iPhones and Apple then implementing that restriction globally for whatever godforsaken reason.

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Begging iPhone to play the catch up game and just have Android’s basic features lol

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Except that many Android phones also don’t have replaceable batteries anymore.

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Hope it doesnt lead to smaller batteries though. It feels like it could since they have to put the battery so it’s accessible.

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But it’ll also allow you to just carry 2 batteries and swap if needed. Even if you don’t want to do that, when your battery ages enough that you can’t at all go through a typical day, you can easily change it out yourself to a fresh one to refresh your phone.

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Oh, here he is. I was worried for a second we’ve lost him.

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Never lose cum.

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What the hell? There are literally full OS alternatives for Android phones. The comment is light on specifics and none of it rings true afaik

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I switched from android to Iphone and there is nothing I miss, I certainly don’t miss how shit the the usb in-ears were on android, all of them haf issues

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I feel so lucky to have never bought into the apple mobile ecosystem every time I have to test any of my web apps on iOS safari. What a shit browser (which you have no choice but to use).

Not to mention having to own several special lightning shit cables to support my test devices. 🤮 They only switched to usb-c because the EU forced them. That detail alone is enough to know what a shit line of products they are cultivating.

But yeah takes me about one second to miss my android device

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I have switched straight to iphone 15, so USB C cable, not that I use it, airpods are lightning, not that I use it, since I am charging both wirelessly.

The website I work on, works for fine for me, so not sure what your issues are.

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If you import iphone from EU does it have these features or is it determined by the region you are using the phone from?

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