50 points

I saw an article about how the photo doesn’t matter anymore and everything has changed, and I thought people somehow finally realized the picture is taken out of context to prop up a conspiracy theory, but… no. It was an article about AI editing and how people can “erase history” and remove “Tank Man” from the photo and people can be “tricked” into thinking it never happened.

Which is stupid as fuck. The pic happened. The video happened. Ironically, they do more to disprove the massacre narrative than support it. The massacre didn’t happen, and editing a picture isn’t going to erase that myth from a country obsessed with believing it.

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21 points

The article, if my assumption is correct, was about some new Pixel phones’ feature where you can prompt a generative AI to add stuff to your picture. Which makes it even more stupid. Because the ability to remove tank man from the picture has existed since the era of film photography.

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14 points

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My understanding is they edited the guy out because he was responsible for excesses driven by personal prejudices, and then he was arrested and executed. That’s correct, isn’t it? Please excuse my ignorance.

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12 points
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Even painters were able to paint over people in their paintings to make it look like they weren’t really there.

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3 points

Ah, so you saw the article, too. Yeah, I have no idea how much that person got paid to write that article, but it was too much.

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13 points

It’s not a single country that believes in this myth, unfortunately

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2 points

True, but my experience is limited to the US. I’m assuming it’s more or less “always the same map”.

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40 points

Has Hakim made it big on the algorithm? This video has been recommended to a bunch of my lib friends and they’re all talking about it, and weirdly enough it didn’t show up for me, despite me being subscribed.

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23 points

Sometimes new videos from users you’re subscribed to don’t show up in your recommended, because the algorithm sometimes assumes that you’ll see the video in your subscription tab, so it would rather use the screen real estate to recommend you other creators or videos.

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20 points

That is ridiculous, if I’ve got every notification and subscription option active, surely it should be top of my feed? Theres no way that many people browse their subscriptions tab over their front page. What a shit website.

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10 points

This is exactly why I stopped using YT.

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8 points

Maybe it got shadow banned before you got the chance to see it recommended to you?

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5 points

I exclusively use my sub page and I have the recommendations turned off.

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Oh man how’s this gonna play on !breadtube@lemmy.ml? We’re about to find out… https://lemmy.ml/post/19640061

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33 points

It seems they didn’t like it very much but weren’t able to offer any substantiated criticisms.

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28 points

One person finally showed up to kvetch about [ableist slur] tankies.

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23 points

Funny, the only comment I saw (besides the person not knowing how Hakim cites his sources via Patreon posts) just said “Removed by mod” 😏

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23 points

Silent seething downvotes and one rabid anti-tankie who did not watch the video

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8 points

Looks like that’s what happened here too. 13 doots on a post here is wild.

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29 points

China isn’t perfect, but the difference in values never becomes more apparent than with Tiananmen. Whether you believe it happened or not, there’s no photo evidence that people were brutalized to such a degree or crushed by tanks. Then you look at something like Kent State or Gaza and the very first thing you see are crushed or mutilated dead bodies.

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23 points

In my personal dealings with Chinese authorities, they’ve been very kind and unwilling to use excessive force.

What I’ve been told by acquaintances is that the BLM dream has actually been achieved in China: run-of-the-mill cops are terrified of getting put under investigation and thus be by-the-book. Just do try to avoid giving them excuses to be passive aggressive, however, which is how you should deal with (reasonable) authority in general.

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4 points

Do you live and/or have friends in China? I’d love to ask about your experiences.

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23 points

I don’t watch a ton of videos but we also have a long-form article on the riots, with 26 references: https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/1989_Tian’anmen_Square_riots

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