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Obligate Cats are Obligate Carnivores. Also, anyone who says otherwise is a fucking moron. Cats can’t be vegan.

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They can be, but it cost a lot of money, and you need to constantly be monitoring them by testing their urine at home. And if things aren’t going well, you need to get to a vet asap.

Or, you can just feed them the fish scraps that would otherwise be thrown out. Additional fish aren’t being killed, and you don’t need to be worried that you’re causing additional harm to the cat.

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Even granting that cats can be sustained on a diet of substances derived entirely by plants, cats can’t actually be vegan. Veganism is a philosophy of what it means to be a person and how humans should live, which cats don’t really have the brain structure to do. Even if you ignore that fact, cats are (I’m saying this as someone who loves cats) psychopathic little murderers; no matter how well-fed a cat is, it will still instinctively kill prey animals. Cats on the hunt will sometimes kill something to eat, see a new bit of prey, abandon their old kill, and hunt the new thing. Cats cannot be vegan.

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I don’t think the concern is cats killing other animals, I think it’s purchasing animal based products for the cat

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You’re right that cats are vessels filled with the urge to murder, so they are likely to kill a bug inside the house.

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Cats cannot be vegan since veganism is a moral philosophy and not a diet, but it has been well established that cats can thrive on a plant based diet supplemented with synthetic taurine, like the taurine found in popular Monster products.

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Updated the title, thanks for the correction

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You’re welcome!

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No you’re welcome.

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hey, it’s that guy from the meme, that’s so cool

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Nah man, the meme says mandate, this guy is saying obligate

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No one is claiming otherwise.

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I’ve seen stuff online about people trying to feed their pets vegan diets. It’s more commonly dogs, but cats crop up every now and again…

I’m just saying that some people are stupid enough to try to make all their pets eat a vegan diet regardless of the nutritional requirements that each pet may have.

So yes. Some people are trying to claim otherwise. They’re idiots, and they may not be here on Lemmy right now, but they exist.

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37 points

explain why cats nibble house plants then

checkmate atheists

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36 points

Because it helps to move fur balls through the digestion system

yahtzee ummm monotheists?

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10 points

Go fish, agnostics!

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7 points

Be a use spider plant is a mild hallucinogen and even sober cats are pretty into seeing ghosts.

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I’m the super paranoid guy about all of this stuff and this exact same thing occurred to me

Why are there a few different changes to sub and site policy connected with the concept of “misinformation”, but somehow skirting around the type of misinformation which it seems is the most pressing issue by far? I.e. accounts which are devoted to posting misinformation?

Honestly I thought the vegan cat food thing was handled semi ok. But surely that’s not the more pressing thing, to justify big team meetings and huge changes to policy and writing misinformation stuff into the legal side and user agreement.

Right?

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You’re spot on, I think. There are several accounts entirely devoted to pushing agendas in bad faith that go unbanned, yet this?

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What sort of stuff are they pushing?

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The usual Lyndon Larouche stuff that was co-opted by Russian state propagandists that appeals to people smart enough to see the problems but not actually be well read into what’s been happening.

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Seemed an important changes to me as well, but I guess they had the MBFC bot thing happening at the same time and wanted to hit two birds with one stone? Not sure to be honest

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I’m not a vegan. But my $.02 as a cat person is this: the cat has biological dietary requirements. If you fail to meet those requirements, it is animal abuse.

By trying to squeeze a cat, an obligate carnivore in nature, into a vegan diet, either you have to be extremely careful about it to ensure you meet all their nutritional needs, or simply, and far more easily, just don’t do it.

Encouraging people who likely do not have the means or expertise to monitor how their pet is doing, to switch them to a vegan diet, is dangerous to the health of the animal.

I’m not sure I disagree with the admin on this one, though there’s probably a better way they could have handled it.

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You don’t have to be super careful. You just have to make sure they get enough taurine. Any number of off the shelf products have sufficient synthetic taurine for a cat to thrive. It doesn’t make sense to get all freaked out about this one nutrient when you trust the pet food manufacturer for every other essential nutrient the cat would die without.

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I assume you have a doctorate in veterinary care on which you’ve based this statement?

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I hope this is okay, we were discussing in this thread (https://feddit.org/post/2379333/1721964 ) a potential community for Fediverse memes, I guess this might be the closest as it documents somehow what happened in the drama?

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