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Sure would be nice to have another Web engine.

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Absolutely this is great news now thenthing is making ppl adopt it.

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Servo, Basilisk and Ladybird make me very optimistic about the future of web browsers. I’m glad to see that people are working on alternatives divorced from Mozilla, as it seems they don’t care anymore.

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Why do you think they don’t care anymore? Agreed on the Servo optimism, though. And I hadn’t heard about Basilisk before, so thanks for mentioning it.

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Basilisk is the odd one out here. It is a continuation of pre-Servo Firefox ( Firefox before Rust ). It is not exactly a “new” engine.

Ladybird is probably the most exciting project as it is most likely to create a new independent browser suitable for daily use.

Servo was very exciting back when Mozilla was heavily invested in it. Sadly, it was long dormant. It really seems to be heating up again though so that is awesome.

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I was so excited for Ladybird, right up until I found out the project lead and main developer, Andreas Kling, is scared of pronouns.

Again, I’m aware some folks think this is annoying, but if you’re the kind of user who shuns Brave because the CEO does stupid shit, Ladybird probably isn’t the way to go either. Not for the moment, at least. People deserve the right to make informed decisions, so I’ll keep sharing this, and I encourage others to do the same when relevant, but don’t harass anyone, please.

If you don’t care about any of this, it’s a very interesting project. I just can’t say I approve.

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Long term servo is unlike to be another web engine. It’ll just replace Firefox. Firefox’s old engine won’t get as much development. Then we’ll be left with Safari, Firefox (servo) and googles web manipulation vehicle Chrome safari with more tracking and higher battery/ram consumption.

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Mozilla is not really associated with Servo anymore.

I would be surprised to see Firefox move to Servo.

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It would be really great if Mozilla could pick Servo back up, and make it Firefox’s engine, and make it like chromium, where the engine and browser are not so tighltly coupled together. GNOME Web could be so much better if it had the performance of Firefox.

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What’s wrong with gecko?

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It cannot be embedded the same way as blink to use other front ends, instead they need to be forks of Firefox with customisations that need to be maintained every update

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GNOME Web stopped using Gecko as a backend when it was still embeddable. They decided on WebKit for other reasons.

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If you like what you see, strongly consider contributing to Servo financially: https://opencollective.com/servo

I did and I feel quite happy about it. Here’s hoping there is more web engines out there 👍

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I’m just learning there’s another web engine? I heard about Ladybird but not this. Now I need to try it.

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Servo was an experimental ground for Mozilla in some ways (like testing out a new CSS engine and porting it back to Gecko if it works). So it’s quite normal for people to be unaware of it, it was not meant for the public.

But later on it was abandoned by Mozilla and stuck in a limbo, until it got picked up by the Linux Foundation. Now it’s a standalone project and I wish them well. We really need a new FOSS web engine.

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Gecko isnt?

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One of the differences is that Gecko written in C++ while Servo is written in Rust

It’s also more optimized and modern

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Gecko is of course Open Source. It is also pretty much the oldest browser engine code base and written in C++. Servo is modern and Rust. Gecko started at Netscape.

The other problem is that Gecko is hard to embed.

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I hate having to rely on Gecko alone to keep Google from having complete control of the web. Very happy to hear about Servo.

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Servo was codeveloped with rust by Mozilla, to get a faster and safer engine. Servo basically showed where improvements needed to be done and then rustc was modified to fit the need.

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I tries it a couple months ago and it was horrible, didn’t even support flexbox back then and it kept crashing. The latest nightly builds are almost usable for basic web browsing though, it’s amazing how fast servo improves

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Yeah, they mostly built the structure, and it seems they’re filling in the details now. It would be awesome to see it become usable for everyday browsing.

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