50 points

AI has some decent uses. Unfortunately, all the shittier and sinister ones outweigh the good.

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Remember that anything “created” by an AI cannot be copyrighted, so the fact that there’s a label representing them is concerning… and possibly actionable

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Not Actionable… you can sell things that don’t have copyright it just means anyone can sell it, you could theoretically rip the song straight from the internet and resell it on the same platform right next to them (unless any human creativity is involved then that has copyright )

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(unless any human creativity is involved then that has copyright )

This is the part people usually forget when they spout “it can’t be copyrighted.” If a human edits the output in some capacity then that is still copyrighted. It’s not really the gotcha a lot of people seem to think it is.

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And that edit can be as minute as changing a single bit of data that is imperceptible to the human ear. As long as a human being has put input into it, they’ve edited it, and there’s copyright that can be protected.

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1 point

Even if they ran a local model to make the music?

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5 points

Why would what computer the model runs on make even a sliver of difference?

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I was implying the training data would be local or user created. Not just using music from the internet.

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24 points

I’m cancelling my family subscription the moment I catch Spotify randomly trying to put AI stuff in my playlist.

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17 points

It’s fate is uncertain because they got sold somewhat recently, but I really like Bandcamp and its model more than Spotify.

Spotify is renting music. You subscribe for two years and at the end of that you have nothing to show for it. The musicians also don’t get much from you, either.

Buying albums for $8 a pop, though? It can be cheaper than Spotify if you’re like me and pick up about one new album a month. Some stuff I listen to and don’t buy. Some months I don’t buy anything and just listen to what’s in my library. And after a couple years of this, I have a large library of drm free music.

I get that Spotify is easier and for some people their taste is really wide, so maybe renting access makes sense for them. And starting from nothing can be daunting. But I am also certain their are Spotify users that pay every month and just listen to the same four albums.

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It can be cheaper than Spotify if you’re like me and pick up about one new album a month. Some stuff I listen to and don’t buy. Some months I don’t buy anything and just listen to what’s in my library. And after a couple years of this, I have a large library of drm free music.

The starting from zero and needing a couple of years to build a solid foundation for your library is the biggest hurdle. If you have that foundation, then sure there are probably not more than 12 new albums per year that are worth to buy. But If you don’t it’s just impossible.

Say you are starting from zero and find that you like the rolling Stones? How long or how expensive does it get with your method before you are even done with their catalogue?

Also a lot of people are probably on the family plan. That changes the equation in favor of Spotify by a lot. You might have 6 users with different tastes, but are only paying like $20 per month?

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Say you are starting from zero and find that you like the rolling Stones? How long or how expensive does it get with your method before you are even done with their catalogue?

Assuming you plan on living a long time, sometimes the long term investment comes out ahead. If you keep renting, you’ll never make any progress.

But get why it can seem daunting.

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Imo unlike movie/TV-streaming music-streaming services at the moment still kind of fulfill their promise to the consumer:

A for the average consumer mostly complete selection of content at a reasonable price (at for the consumer, maybe not for most artists) and a high degree of convenience.

Until you build your own library, which would take quite a while until you drop a lot of money in advance, you’ll have a worse experience.

And even when living alone you could still share with friends, parents/siblings or a partner.


All that said I am very sympathetic to your line of thinking. Because it only works as long as the deal doesn’t change.

And we see all to well how it might not last when looking at the movie/tv streaming market. Prices might increase beyond purely matching inflation, content might fracture into multiple services, sharing might get disallowed, and specific versions of songs or artists might disappear due to censorship (or similar reasons).

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5 points

Couldn’t agree more. Granted I already had a collection started in the form of high quality mp3s I used to import into iTunes.

Since switching to using only my music library I’ve started to enjoy radio and “shuffle all” much more. I rediscovered a lot of artists that the streaming apps stopped recommending.

I’ve, overtime, started replacing my mp3s with flacs from bandcamp. It eases a lot.of stress knowing I own my copies and bandcamp (and qobuz) keeps backups in case I happen to lose my library.

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12 points

Will there be an AI that has the money to buy AI music and AI books?

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Yes with consumer spending at an all time low the world government will decide that in order to keep the status quo intact there has to be an alternative model. Some entrepreneur will come up with the idea of ‚buyBots‘ who are anthropomorphic androids that will get issued a governmental credit card and who’s only goal is to keep dying strip malls alive by roaming the halls and mindlessly buy random stuff 24/7. funnily enough for some unknown reason these bots will for randomly form small groups of 3-5 bots and if one group happens to run into another they will throw their arms in the air, screech joyfully and then merge into a horde of buy bots. This excerpt was written by myAssLLM, if you like it give it an ass up.

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