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No censorship

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Technically you can create your own instance and post whatever you like, but if all the major instances defederate from you, it’s still a form of censorship.

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But people can also choose their instance, and there are enough instances out there that it’s hard to force all of them to defederate.

I use lemmy.today as my home instance. They explicitly state in their instance policies that they want to avoid defederating with instances if possible, and so far, have no defederations. As long as there are instances like that out there, you cannot really muzzle someone.

Avoiding censorship doesn’t mean that people are required to consume content, just that they have the option to do so.

There are two major risks that I think do apply (though the Threadiverse is no more vulnerable to either than Reddit):

  • State censorship. Countries willing to, at the network level, ban instances or instances that federate with instances (and possibly also VPNs, though even without that, the bar to see a post is increased) can make it hard to see content. This happens, at least in part, today. One of the first discussions I was in was one where Ada, the instance admin on lemmy.blahaj.zone (transexual-oriented instance), was talking to some guy in a majority-Islamic, Middle Eastern country whose government had blocked access to lemmy.blahaj.zone at the network level. He could see posts by using a federated instance that they hadn’t blocked, but not images, since those were served directly from lemmy.blahaj.zone.

    Right now, the Threadiverse is still small enough that it’ll fly under the radar of some governments. But as it grows and becomes more prominent, media becomes of more political interest to governments.

  • The potential for a Thresdiverse Cabal. It is possible for enough instance admins, banding together, to potentially form a cabal and to have significant influence over the system. In the past, this sort of thing has arisen on federated systems:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_Is_No_Cabal

    There Is No Cabal (abbreviated TINC[1]) is a catchphrase and running joke found on Usenet.[2] The journalist Wendy M. Grossman writes that its appearance on the alt.usenet.cabal FAQ reflects conspiracy accusations as old as the Internet itself.[3] The anthropologist Gabriella Coleman writes that the joke reveals “discomfort over the potential for corruption by meritocratic leaders”.[2]

    The phrase There Is No Cabal was developed to deny the existence of the backbone cabal, which members of the cabal denied. The cabal consisted of operators of major news server newsgroups, allowing them to wield greater control over Usenet.[4]

    That being said, even the Usenet backbone cabal had limited control, and the Fediverse’s protocols are probably more-resistant. Usenet’s NNTP relied upon traffic flooding through the network over a set of fixed links. Esch NNTP server has at least one other NNTP server that they are connected to. That upstream server could block content or filter posts, and downstream wouldn’t see it. ActivityPub has every instance (potentially) talk to every other instance. I’m not sure that that won’t lead to scalability issues in the long term, but it also makes it hard for operators of major instances to control what other instances see.

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That’s subjective, mods are censors. You can host your own though.

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I’ve been banned from one community here already.

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What did you do?

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some I made in this post: “What is a woman?” https://lemmy.world/post/18941154

and a few of my comments there remain.

I was being a bit sarcastic about political correctness and transcritical—which on most of reddit and Lemmy seems to be transphobic.

I wouldn’t regard this parodist as a woman.

https://youtu.be/9olCMRbuR5I?t=5772 (long video, but this link is cued)

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You can cut down on the content you don’t like/democrat-posting/unwholesome content by blocking a few key users, really improves your mental health

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mods can suck, admins can suck, but you can go off and start your own instance, with blackjack and hookers.

I also like that I can see that someone is posting from hexbear, and I can disregard their comment. It saves time.

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Yeah the instancing makes malicious users much harder to come by, and easy to hide for sure.

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Same reason I joined here, plus most users on Reddit are just bots at least in here you can tell who’s a bot and who’s real and you can tell which comments to agree or disagree with and which to ignore based on the instance lol, it’s way easier and friendlier here tbh I was banned for violent comments on Reddit mainly because the hive mind there are mostly removed but in here I can say Fuck Reddit, it was good once before the coronavirus now it’s just a piece of shit.

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I was banned for violent comments on Reddit

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Yeah! Violence rules!

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It would not surprise me to find out 50%+ of Reddit activity is bots at this point

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You can block entire instances. I blocked hexbear and lemmy.ml, and my feed became MUCH more pleasant to read. The vast majority of trolls seem to be on those instances.

So what I love about Lemmy now is that comment threads rarely turn toxic like they do on Reddit.

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Less fake accounts, less political censorship, less trolls, and less bad faith argument clowns.

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Of course this opinion is only accurate to the reality if you’re spiritually from .ml or hexbear.

Folks can’t seem to deal with outside perspectives very well and consequently love to swing that banhammer.

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They’re here though, more by the day.

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My suspicion is that there are a few instances either controlled by bad actors or indifferent to them. Blocking those can make lemmy a much better place if you aren’t interested in conflict on this platform.

And if you enjoy arguing or just want to hone your debate skills against trolls, you can do that, of course.

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