Obligatory reminder that the US already installed a capitalist dictatorship there and they still aren’t content with that

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I hate this about libs. Putin was OUR guy. We helped put him in power. He was doing whatever we wanted. But that wasn’t enough. The Cold War propaganda brain worms run too deep so we continued treating Russia like our enemy.

On the plus side, I hope all those Russian compradors realize they fucked their country and betrayed the revolution for nothing.

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It’s true, communists just admitted Putin is a commie

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On the plus side, I hope all those Russian compradors realize they fucked their country and betrayed the revolution for nothing.

I think there’s at least some understanding of that. and that even if they had wanted to be filthy capitalists, essentially carving the country up and offering it on a fire sale to the west was a terrible idea.

I’m looking it up and will have to search more, I believe Xi spoke to Putin before (don’t quote me on this or take it as fact, this is a vague memory and I’m trying to look it up with no success thus far) in regards to the collapse of the Soviets and the horrors of shock therapy/etc in Russia- noting something along the lines of how Chinese success had been through maintaining their principles/integrity(?).

Putin may be a lib, but he’s not braindead. And I imagine much of Russia- and now even the oligarchs, who have seen the west confiscate large swathes of their wealth (lol) can recognize on some level, the painful reality.

He was doing whatever we wanted. But that wasn’t enough. The Cold War propaganda brain worms run too deep so we continued treating Russia like our enemy.

As for this, he wasn’t willing to carve the country up on a silver platter for the west (though he was certainly doing everything else), and he sought some level of equal partnership. But the west desired (and still desires) a second coming of Yeltsin, or Gorbachev- it wasn’t just “cold war brain worms,” in a very real sense it was the nature of capital and imperialism (that too many of the Russians forgot about, though the lessons of their revolution and of Marx should have taught them otherwise). The west did not want Russia as an equal partner, or even as a hobbled subservient partner, till now they still openly talk about carving it up and then moving on (to China, then India, and the rest of the world). That is the nature of empire, the nature of the hegemonic and supremacist ideology of the west, and of the self-sustaining and self-policing inherent corruption, warmongering, and barbarism of capitalism, and thus of the west…

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6 points

That’s hilarious, I never thought about it like that

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11 points

And Putin has spent decades trying to reconnect with the West as an ally against China.

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31 points

I tried to cherry pick a couple of quotes to write some jokes about but this piece is complete nonsense from beginning to end. He says that Russia is subaltern to China and his proof is that Putin once said his children are fluent in Mandarin.

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Putin once said his children are fluent in Mandarin.

Did you seen lemmy.ml thread about that? Liberals really believe that there is infinite hate between Russia and China (for reasons undisclosed apparently just because they are inherently evil) and Russia either already is puppet of China or that there soon be war or economic takover. Something like half comments from that thread were kicked out by mods for orientalism and yellow peril lol.

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Yeah I can’t see any comments there. It is for the best probably .

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7 points

The obamas also sent their kids to learn mandarin

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15 points

Real Hours.

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Why on Earth would they do that? Is this like some kind of voodoo thing where they make puppets of the Chinese brass and order them to march into Russia?

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If you read the article, it’d be very clear! China obviously needs to attack Russia right now, so it can secure 3 fields that Russia took after liberating Manchuria from the Japanese, that are supposed to be in the Chinese domain, according to some treaty between Tsarist Russia and Qing China signed 350 years ago.

The strategic importance of these 3 fields and that 1 old man’s sheep herd that graze in that land, can not be understated!!! It’s certainly far more important than the MINISCULE amount of trade that happens between Russia and China right now, and that INSIGNIFICANT alliance they have (which Russia will certainly betray next week!!!)

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Lol, you got me. I often comment before I read

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15 points

Why would you attack your emerging market that you have quasi monopoly over?

Are capitalists stupid?

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