Libs: “THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO QUESTION THAT THERE’S GENOCIDE IN XINJIANG, AND IF YOU DARE TO BRING UP THE LACK OF EVIDENCE OF ANY SORT OF ABUSE FOR THE PAST 3 YEARS YOU’LL GET BANNED!!!”
Also libs: “Didn’t you know that 15k of the 40k humans murdered in Gaza were actually terrorists? Also, lots of civilians die in wars like the one happening in Gaza, it’s sad but inevitable”
Fuuuuuuuuuck this shit.
I saw the exact same thing happening on TV. There was a Palestinian member of the french left who was interviewed as a candidate for European elections and I kid you not the interview went like :
- Journalist repeatedly denies that there’s a genocide in Gaza, interviewee cites international law and evidence to defend that there’s a genocide in Gaza
- Journalist brings up that her party abstained on recognising the “genocide” in Xinjiang. Interviewee cites international law and simply say she’s still very concerned yada yada. Journalist repeatedly scolds her about it
If any lib in the wall needed further proof that the west, through their media, is never serious about human rights and only instrumentalises them
The UN are genocide deniers I guess then. Their report says they found no evidence of such.
Still spamming that “human rights abuse” button to death they seem to still be persuaded that teaching jobs is torture
Lmao I remember that, the accusations that giving women access to free higher education and vocational training was cultural genocide because now the women would have the financial independence to choose if they wanted to live according to traditional social rules or not
Edit: and the time that giving school kids free school lunches was cultural genocide because Muslims fast during Ramadan - and the western libs revealed they aren’t at all connected to Uyghur culture in which children under 14 usually don’t fast anyway.
It’s because westerners don’t see Muslims as human, so liberating people from reactionary ideals is seen as destroying the only way they see Muslims as acting (being conservative fundamentalists)
I’m not going to pretend China wasn’t heavy handed and that there’s stuff to criticise in there but the outcome is way fucking better than the western approach to islamic extremism. No deaths to speak of and the extremism ended completely. Compared to the western approach of incarceration and bombing it works 1000x better.
Thing is, the debate never was about whether the reeducation camps were excessive, it’s about genocide. People still believe the unsubstantiated claims of mass sterilisation, people still believe that the Uyghur culture is being destroyed (the other day someone posted a video of the youtube channel Little Chinese Everywhere visiting Xinjiang which clearly shows otherwise)… It’s extremely sad how, after 3+ years of no new claims because there isn’t even any way to make up evidence anymore, people still believe there’s an ongoing genocide
Have you considered that the UN has buckled to Chinese pressure? Just like the WHO and all the other things I don’t like?
Also, lots of civilians die in wars like the one happening in Gaza, it’s sad but inevitable”
But when you tell them Ukraine war is probably the least deadly for civilian* wars in last over century with military to civilian deaths ratio being like 50 to 1 they will get incredibly mad.
*From 2022 when ukronazi army got pushed from most of Donbas, in 2014-feb.2022 majority of victims were civilians in Donbas.
They’ll say it’s because Ukraine are wholesome 100 Marvel heroes who protect their people while Hamas uses human shielderinos.
Ukraine genociding themselves by sending the few thousand males of child-rearing age they still have to the front without training
I remember some serious discussions (in context of WW1 and War of the Triple Alliance) if doing something like this, especially in a prolonged war with already known consequences should be called genocide of government on their own nation.
Didn’t Ukraine deliberately draft a lot of people from their eastern oblasts specifically for the reason that they were more expendable and also not-really ukrainians anyway?
I mean UN reported around 10000 dead civilians for entire war (edit: since Russian intervention in 2022) last year with military deaths already estimated on at least 250000 and possibly even 500000, it was on the wiki about the war when i last checked (to be fair it was some time ago, but the ratio should hold for the last year or even increase on the side of military since there were some really fierce fights since then)
Ok, I didn’t know any numbers about the casualties. Thank you for the context and for the sources, comrade
Average LW interaction
And damn they really did a genocide denial in the same comment they attacked you for supposedly doing the same. Amazing.
I saw an LW thread about China yesterday and everytime somebody said something even mildly positive about China, some smuglord posted “two questions: is the Tiananmen massacre real and are Uyghurs genocided?” and when people discarded the questions as irrelevant, they posted some le epic reddit debate win reply. LW is worse than reddit I swear to god lol
You can literally go on tiktok right now and see how many zionist war crimes as you can stomach, and yet I can’t find a single instance of anything anywhere of Xinjiang. Libs just think what MSM tells them to think.
Either China has the most sophisticated censorship and security apparatus ever made or there’s no genocide. Given how photos of the Holocaust, Japan’s invasion of its neighbors, the Rwandan Genocide, Bosnia, and the current genocide in Gaza were all available to contemporaries, I’m inclined to think there’s nothing going on in China.
Of course, whitoids will say something like “It’s literally 1894 over there and everyone is brainwashed and the Chinese are savages and don’t take pictures and th–”
