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Women would be so much better off with out us.

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Yeah, the bear argument applies here. The bear would just kill you. Man would make you suffer.

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How about we instead keep on teaching men healthy masculinity and create the foundations for a better society rather than keep “banning” everything bad.

An all women/men world would still have evil perpetrators.

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I terrify my wife. When she comes home I hide next to the fridge and I say “BOO!” and I get her just about every time. Then I hug my kids and finish making dinner.

Your pity party here is a self-fulfilling prophecy and screams white knight and all that. You can do better, get out of your head.

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News only reports like this and it skews peoples perceptions. For example, I’m a guy. This last weekend I took my friend and all her kids (all girls) out for amusement park, festival, swimming, gifts, and any food they wanted out weekend before school starts. I paid for everything. You won’t find it in the news, Why’d I do it, because they moved to a new city far away from their friends so I wanted to start all the girls on a very happy note for school starting.

No one owes you examples. Men are not inherently evil and women are not inherently good. People, all people, have the capacity for both good and evil.

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Some, not all, hopefully not most.

But Jesus, so many of us suck so hard.

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Great, start with yourself

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“us” speak for yourself buddy but I have never lit a woman on fire and never will. We all would be better off without violent assholes regardless of their gender.

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Oh no. This beautiful light extinguished from our eyes

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10 points

Whoa… Bad choice of words…

Or great, depends on what you were going for…

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Agreed. Star would have implied because of her athletic skill, I meant because of her spirit.

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104 points

End femicide!

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Curious downvotes on this one.

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Not really. Specifically saying “end femicide” is like fundraising for breast cancer treatment, but only for men, who are a small minority of those with breast cancer.

You are over three times less likely to be a victim of murder (in the US at least) if you are a woman, than a man.

There is zero reason to oppose murder of one sex any more or less than the other, and it takes the same amount of effort to voice opposition for both, as for only one. So going out of your way to advocate only for the half of the population that suffers this fate far less often, understandably comes off as sexist and callous, to the objective observer.

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I’ll just say this: End femicide.

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How many in that statistic are men being killed by women? How many of those murders are the result of gang violence that’s predominantly committed against men by other men?

I assume you’re referring to this stat:

In 2022, the FBI reported that 14,441 men and 4,251 women were murdered in the United States.

… which equates to about 79% of all murders.

There’s a lot of nuance in that broad, sweeping statistic, but here are some statistics that are more clear:

In the same year, there were 15,094 male murder offenders and 2,107 female murder offenders.

… so the problem isn’t that more men are being murdered in general, but that an overwhelmingly larger number of men are murderers, and they target each other quite a bit. Gang violence stats are wrapped up in that 79%, and most gang violence is male-on-male.

Here’s another:

Among homicides in the United States, intimate partners kill almost 50% of female and 10% of male victims.

Many of these stats are situational, making that overly-broad figure misleading.

Also, the likelihood of being murdered increases quite a bit when a woman is pregnant:

In 2020, the homicide rate for pregnant or postpartum women was 5.23 per 100,000 live births, which is 35% higher than the rate for non-pregnant and non-postpartum women.

And that doesn’t include all the violent sexual crimes against women and girls, that are also committed at a far higher rate than against men and boys.

The overarching fact seems to be that men kill men a lot, and they also kill women an order of magnitude more often than women kill men, so maybe the problem here is men’s propensity for violence.

e: If that’s what you meant, I agree, we should be finding and implementing ways to reduce male toxicity in general, which includes many things like supporting mental health care and opposing norms (mostly within the online ‘manosphere’) that promote and foster toxic rather than healthy masculinity.

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You are over three times less likely to be a victim of murder (in the US at least) if you are a woman, than a man.

There is a big difference in intent. Do these 3x times men been murder just for been a man?

The femicide(at least in a decent country) is a category of crime, a discriminatory crime, is not a normal murder, is associated with rape or domestic violence, etc.

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Lemmy is a quite misogynistic place.

Its often no fun to be a woman on here. They might rip you apart, if you say something slightly feminist (depending on where you say it). Made me think of leaving several times already.

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It’s not just misogyny. I’m watching the sweetest, most kind user getting ripped to shreds for posting articles from MSM about candidates across the spectrum, who are of neither major party. The toxicity is wild , self-justification more wild. In the short time I’ve been on Lemmy, it’s “gone to hell in a fast car and keeping it hot,” as I hear a user elsewhere say. about certain topics. I’m quickly becoming of the opinion the up and down votes get discarded and a randomized ranking algorithm put in place.

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It’s not misogynistic to not want the half of humanity that gets murdered multiple times more often (over 3x in the US) than the other, to be erased as victims.

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11 points

Please don’t leave. We all need you here. (But I understand if you do…)

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Block anyone or any instance you find regularly being outright misogynistic and slowly, but surely, create a better place for yourself.

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I understand if you do, but I hope you won’t. I like this place despite its flaws and I hope it won’t turn into a far right community.

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41 points

Please don’t leave! Keep speaking your mind, if enough of us stick it out we can drown out the users like Captain Asshole here.

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You’re not alone! Please stay!

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It fucking sucks. This place was great shortly after the reddit exodus. Now it’s just as bad, if not worse.

As a man, are there any fucking online spaces that haven’t been co-opted by right wing interests? I’m sick of this “red pill” bullshit infecting the minds of young men in every corner of the internet. Nowhere is safe. I wish they’d crawl back into the holes they came out of.

We are going fucking backwards and it’s infuriating.

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Wtf are you talking about. What a weird thing to write. I’m very much not OK with being murdered thank you very much.

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Lemmy is filled with the most opinionated kind of Redditors and Russians it can fit on the servers, it’s a moderator miracle it didn’t go full incel.

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Hopefully it was from the perspective that the comment is not helpful in reducing the number of murders of women.

I don’t know, I don’t personally see the harm in merely motivational comments or rants. But I thought it might be that.

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I honestly have no idea how any Lemmy comment might be helpful at reducing the murders of women.

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North west, bordering uganda. hmmm. i wonder if there is an islamic component to this? Or maybe a brain development problem. that region has a big problem with helminth infestation. A lot of poor rural kids have the worms and so, the immune system is inflamed and brain fails to develop. typical characteristic is inability to negotiate simple problems and turn on the other person in violent rage. its well documented. i have seen videos from rural west kenya of low iq parents beating their low iq children.

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This happens thousands of times a day in the developed west

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Yes, sadly islam does happen thousands of times a day in the west. Not so sure about the chronic helminth infestation tho

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Making big assumptions there. Turns out the perpetuator may have been Christian.

Whoops.

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Her ex is a christian(though it doesn’t matter what he is because it’s irrelevant to the murder). Are you gonna still blame “islam” for all your problems? Are they also causing your adhd and dysfunction?

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Listen buddy.

First of all, men are brutalizing women all over the world, every day, regardless of religion.

You should think about religion as less of a driver and more of a record. Like a dictionary.

People will do whatever they want to do, and then they will justify it. If there happens to be a few convenient passages in a religious text justifying setting your spouse on fire, they’ll repeat that until they’re blue in the face while dousing a woman in gasoline.

And sure, you can say that they use that text to tech their kids, but they’re still just teaching the bits they want to.

The point is, Muslim, Hindu, Christian, doesn’t matter. All major sacred books have bits about brutalizing women that step out of line, and the people that really like those bits tend to climg to them to justify being horrible fucking people.

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Why just the other day in springfield a woman was covered in pitch and lit on fire down the road from me. /BIG SARCASM

I don’t believe the brainworm excuse given by that user but I don’t think it’s a stretch to see how locality influences these problems.

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No, the woman in Springfield was just beaten to a pulp. You just don’t know it because it doesn’t make the news as long as she’s not been set on fire.

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You don’t believe in helminths? thousands are afflicted. maybe you think schistosoma are imaginary too. so, when youre pissing blood in excruciating pain, you will go to the witch doctor for a dose of belief based medicine, yes?

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Did they exploded yet?

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Removed, do not threaten other users with mod action.

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i have seen videos from rural west kenya of low iq parents beating their low iq children.

Really didn’t take long for this site to become the racist cesspit that reddit was. Impressive.

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They have chronic parasite infestation leading to mental retardation. its a medical problem.

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“How can I blame muslims for this”

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