Edit: NOTE, I am the receiver of the texts.

So many people asking me to have my wife do something different on her end.

Beloved, she is on iPhone because she doesn’t want to do anything “weird.” She is texting from her phone number using her texting app. That’s what’s going to happen.

Now, why can’t I get iMessage on my android phone? If it’s just a messenger app why not make it available for Android?

I’d use it.

116 points

SMS/MMS has really low file size limits, and iPhones may downscale a little more aggressively than required.

Just pick an internet based messaging service. I like Signal, but they all work.

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The next version of iOS should add support for RCS which should allow for cross platform larger images as well.

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40 points

Welcome to 2008, apple

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To be far, apple has had iMessage since 2011 and no one cared about RCS until it was adopted on Android in 2019.

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Fucking honestly - it’s the theme for their whole product line

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RCS from what I can tell still has some significant limitations, like the version common on Android having some Google proprietary extensions it’s not clear if other vendors will fully support. I’d still recommend something like Signal to most people, though RCS improves the experience for those not using that.

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It’s all a huge mess… Apple is complying with the RCS spec, but isn’t using Google’s proprietary encryption method because it’s proprietary. Google also won’t open the API on Android to allow for 3rd party RCS apps. So until Google decides to abandon their stronghold over the encryption standard and API access, RCS will continue to suck from a privacy standpoint.

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Do you mean should add RCS as in they’re expected to, or should add RCS as in “that would be wise”?

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It is expected, it is already in the betas but may also require carriers to enable it as some beta testers found it wasn’t available to them initially.

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Its due to compression of the video in order to fit on a MMS message, which is very small. Android uses RCS as a new message standard that can send bigger files but Apple has yet to add it to their OS. Its similar to how Apple uses iMessage to do the same, however this is not a standard and is locked to only apple devices.

Apple is supposedly adding support for RCS during the new iOS update but until then you can use a different messaging app to send better/larger files.

I recommend Signal as it is easy to sign up and start using while also being private.

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+1 for Signal. I converted everyone in my friends and family circle to it …except one person, but I just ignore their texts.

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+1 signal fills the gap perfectly

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I like and use signal, but of course the problem is convincing someone else to start using it in order to send you a message.

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I’d hope that’s not terribly hard when the people in question are married to each other.

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Also messenger apps like Signal often have a setting to send higher quality (less compressed) videos which are bigger in size.

In signal it’s Settings > Data and storage > Sent media qualify

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It’s not private given that they require your phone number to sign up.

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I think you are confusing private with anonymous. One can be private without being anonymous.

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So many people asking me to have my wife do something different on her end. Beloved, she is on iPhone because she doesn’t want to do anything “weird.”

Assuming using a third-party messaging app is “weird”, then she can’t send you video with acceptable quality. That’s how it is.

She can’t fix that. You can’t fix that. None of the readers here can fix that unless they work at Apple. This may improve in the future when Apple adopts RCS, but there’s a lot that real-world implementations of RCS do that isn’t in the standard, so the full details of interoperability are uncertain until we see it in the wild.

Now, why can’t I get iMessage on my android phone?

Because Apple doesn’t want you to. Apple wants situations like this one to pressure people to buy iPhones because that’s apparently easier for some people than agreeing on a messaging app.

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Anything over MMS gets compressed insane amounts.

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I have an iPhone and whenever my Android-owning friend sends me something, it’s a tiny thumbnail of a photo. So yeah, goes both ways.

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The trick is to send a link to the photo or video instead of the actual file. This is also how iPhone users can use FaceTime with people on other platforms.

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That wouldn’t be an issue today if Apple had started supporting RCS, the replacement for the old SMS/MMS system years ago like every Android phone. Instead of trying to strangle it by acting like iMessage on iOS was the only solution.

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RCS has been around since 2008 and got Universal Profile specifications in 2016.

It took Google until 2019 to get RCS out, and they include proprietary Google extensions that may or may not be supported by other providers, further complicating rollout of RCS.

They’re genuinely not somehow way better in this regard.

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It’s because Apple has refused to adopt new messaging standards like RCS (not that Google is doing that much of a better job), but it’s purposefully broken interoperability to force people into buying into product ecosystems (iPhone vs. Android) to make you stick with one and get stuck on it.

It’s stupid anti-competitive and I freakin’ hate it.

Literally doesn’t have to be this way, it’s a choice (mostly by Apple, but once again doesn’t mean Google is better).


https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/15/24178470/apple-rcs-support-wwdc-announcement-android-imessage

Apple was largely forced to support RCS in response to the mounting pressure from global regulators and competing companies. That may help explain the somewhat disgruntled approach to announcing its rollout in iOS 18.


https://www.tomsguide.com/how-to-switch-on-rcs-messaging-in-ios-18

Here’s a walkthrough to ensure RCS is enabled on your wife’s iPhone, once iOS 18 drops in the next month or so.

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A lot of RCS is using Google Jibe, it’s one of the ways they were able to roll it out so fast not necessarily with carrier support. I can’t fault them too much for not immediately embracing it. Based on the Toms Hardware link it looks like they are depending on carrier hubs. For me that means I may not get support for a long time as an MVNO user.

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The Google proprietary extensions in their implementation of RCS is honestly pretty crappy imho as well. Neither of these companies are “good guys” in terms of RCS standards.

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Ah, so Google is taking the Microsoft approach to embrace and extend, but don’t share. Gross.

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That’s why I’m kinda hoping Apple would adopt standard RCS and then the ball’s on Google for not cooperating.

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Their proprietary extensions are for the same reason Apple took forever to implement it.

RCS still sucks.

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Don’t forget to add in the primary reason they don’t want to implement it is exactly because of comment’s like OPs, because it makes it look like Android phones are the problem. Most people assume that it’s because it’s an android it doesn’t work right, and so everyone should just have iPhones. Why fix what is already great marketing for them, even if it is a complete lie?

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Google will also try to block you from their RCS servers if they detect you’re rooted, causing your messages to be silently downgraded. It’s pretty bad.

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